Comments on: Help! Trapped In A Guru Database http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/ Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies & Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM... Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:36:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: 心想事成的秘密 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-63503 心想事成的秘密 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:35:11 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-63503 <blockquote>I simply set up some filters from the server that re-routed all their e-mail back to their customer service address before it even hit my inbox. </blockquote> Teli, how to do that?

I simply set up some filters from the server that re-routed all their e-mail back to their customer service address before it even hit my inbox.

Teli, how to do that?

]]> By: Listen In While I Interview An Expert http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-63396 Listen In While I Interview An Expert Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:14:07 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-63396 [...] about Email Marketing from “the guru gang” lately, but we’ve certainly seen some terrible examples from them not to learn [...] [...] about Email Marketing from “the guru gang” lately, but we’ve certainly seen some terrible examples from them not to learn [...]

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-60031 Lynn Terry Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:33:29 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-60031 I honestly dont know if its a violation when you sign up for their affiliate program - to make you log in to your affiliate account to opt-out, that is. It should be - and it should be a violation to send completely unrelated solicitations. I honestly dont know if its a violation when you sign up for their affiliate program – to make you log in to your affiliate account to opt-out, that is. It should be – and it should be a violation to send completely unrelated solicitations.

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59970 Teli Adlam Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:43:10 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59970 Frankly, I think it got off track about the time that Joe Vitale ceased involvement, if I'm not mistaken. The only reason I'd joined the program in the first place was to promote a book, which was later pulled, but now it's back up for sale...put another way, I truly don't even read their e-mails any more. As for whether you've been unsubscribed or not, I'd hold out until the next mailing comes through (hasn't yet, or at least I haven't received it). I can pop back over to this thread and let you know. If you haven't received anything, that means you're probably unsubbed. Pretty sad that you should have to go through all of this, though. And those "log in to change settings" always rub me the wrong way, too. Isn't that a violation of the CAN-SPAM act? ~ Teli Frankly, I think it got off track about the time that Joe Vitale ceased involvement, if I’m not mistaken.

The only reason I’d joined the program in the first place was to promote a book, which was later pulled, but now it’s back up for sale…put another way, I truly don’t even read their e-mails any more.

As for whether you’ve been unsubscribed or not, I’d hold out until the next mailing comes through (hasn’t yet, or at least I haven’t received it). I can pop back over to this thread and let you know. If you haven’t received anything, that means you’re probably unsubbed.

Pretty sad that you should have to go through all of this, though. And those “log in to change settings” always rub me the wrong way, too. Isn’t that a violation of the CAN-SPAM act?

~ Teli

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59472 Lynn Terry Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:21:32 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59472 I second that, Sandra... I second that, Sandra…

]]> By: Sandra Sims http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59463 Sandra Sims Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:10:36 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59463 I've also had the problem with so many emails from them and now they all go in the SP*AM folder. The Nitro guys lost my trust a long time ago. They used to have some really good products and marketing. I don't know what happened to them but somewhere they got way off track. I’ve also had the problem with so many emails from them and now they all go in the SP*AM folder. The Nitro guys lost my trust a long time ago. They used to have some really good products and marketing. I don’t know what happened to them but somewhere they got way off track.

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59392 Lynn Terry Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:12:55 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59392 This is certainly nothing new. In fact, I posted a <a href="http://www.clicknewz.com/883/spam-risk-in-a-volatile-market/">similar rant</a> back in June. Its getting incredibly frustrating. Mind you, some of the very people that are really crossing the line... are the same people that taught "list building" and email marketing strategies over the last few years. Things that come to mind are niche lists (topic focus), relationship marketing, branding, establishing trust - am I alone, or do these phrases ring a bell with you too?? This is certainly nothing new. In fact, I posted a similar rant back in June. Its getting incredibly frustrating.

Mind you, some of the very people that are really crossing the line… are the same people that taught “list building” and email marketing strategies over the last few years.

Things that come to mind are niche lists (topic focus), relationship marketing, branding, establishing trust – am I alone, or do these phrases ring a bell with you too??

]]> By: Kelly http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59386 Kelly Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:52:43 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59386 I've never been associated with these guys but I have experienced the 'how the heck to you get out of this?' syndrome with a mailing list before. I do not like it when they don't give you an easy unsubscribe link and ask you to 'Log in and edit your preferences' when it was just a mailing list, not a membership or something more involved. I just set up a filter and instruct my email to delete their mail. I’ve never been associated with these guys but I have experienced the ‘how the heck to you get out of this?’ syndrome with a mailing list before. I do not like it when they don’t give you an easy unsubscribe link and ask you to ‘Log in and edit your preferences’ when it was just a mailing list, not a membership or something more involved.

I just set up a filter and instruct my email to delete their mail.

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59329 Lynn Terry Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:36:00 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59329 Interestingly, I havent received another email from them since that last one yesterday. That either means they stopped the loop on this one particular message - or I was successfully unsubscribed. I'd be impressed if it were the latter... Interestingly, I havent received another email from them since that last one yesterday. That either means they stopped the loop on this one particular message – or I was successfully unsubscribed. I’d be impressed if it were the latter…

]]> By: Best three internet marketing training program review http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59321 Best three internet marketing training program review Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:01:05 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59321 Lynn, this is too bad and really worrying when you get trapped to a mailing list and can't just unsubscribe from it. I have a similar experience with another mailing list for quite some time now. There is just no way to unsubscribe yet the 'gurus' promote this sites. Maybe I will do the same as you did - post a thread on the warrior or DP to show me how to remove myself. Great post, Lynn Lynn, this is too bad and really worrying when you get trapped to a mailing list and can’t just unsubscribe from it.

I have a similar experience with another mailing list for quite some time now. There is just no way to unsubscribe yet the ‘gurus’ promote this sites.

Maybe I will do the same as you did – post a thread on the warrior or DP to show me how to remove myself.

Great post, Lynn

]]> By: Andrew Peacock http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59285 Andrew Peacock Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:18:32 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59285 Lynn Funny you should post this, and thanks for the response. I had two affiliate accounts, couldn't unsub, mailed their support with both details, and one was successfully deleted. The other one still gets mails, and I was going to send a snotty-gram today about it. I'll monitor the thread, Andy Lynn
Funny you should post this, and thanks for the response. I had two affiliate accounts, couldn’t unsub, mailed their support with both details, and one was successfully deleted.

The other one still gets mails, and I was going to send a snotty-gram today about it.

I’ll monitor the thread,
Andy

]]> By: Alan http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59271 Alan Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:14:08 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59271 Lynn, I've been following that thread at the warrior forum and I just posted saying that you have been very nice trying to work them and even if it's a glitch on their end I suggested you report them to the FTC. The CAN-SPAM law states their remove system must work period. Maybe then they will pay more attention and fix the problem. Lynn,

I’ve been following that thread at the warrior forum and I just posted saying that you have been very nice trying to work them and even if it’s a glitch on their end I suggested you report them to the FTC. The CAN-SPAM law states their remove system must work period. Maybe then they will pay more attention and fix the problem.

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/comment-page-1/#comment-59194 Teli Adlam Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:52:40 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1066/help-trapped-in-a-guru-database/#comment-59194 Lynn, I believe something <em>is</em> wrong with their mailing system because I've only signed up for one affiliate account (no other subscriptions that I know of) and I received a total of 6 e-mails with the exact same subject/content yesterday and the day prior. Nothing today, thank goodness, so it seems they may have it under control. Sorry you have to deal with it; it reminds me of my nightmare with DrugStore.com -- after they refused to honour my request, I simply set up some filters <em>from the server</em> that re-routed all their e-mail back to their customer service address before it even hit my inbox. Maybe that's the next course of action if you truly can't get yourself off the mailing list. :) Good luck. ~ Teli Lynn,
I believe something is wrong with their mailing system because I’ve only signed up for one affiliate account (no other subscriptions that I know of) and I received a total of 6 e-mails with the exact same subject/content yesterday and the day prior. Nothing today, thank goodness, so it seems they may have it under control.

Sorry you have to deal with it; it reminds me of my nightmare with DrugStore.com — after they refused to honour my request, I simply set up some filters from the server that re-routed all their e-mail back to their customer service address before it even hit my inbox. Maybe that’s the next course of action if you truly can’t get yourself off the mailing list. :)

Good luck.

~ Teli

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