Comments on: Forced Continuity, Responsible Marketing & Buyer Beware: Both Sides of The Accountability Fence http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/ Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies & Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM... Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:30:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lynne May http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-137383 Lynne May Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:35:32 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-137383 I just received email notification of a refund and cancellation. Thank you. I just received email notification of a refund and cancellation.

Thank you.

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-137380 Lynn Terry Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:21:59 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-137380 Thank you Joel - Lynne I hope that resolves your feelings regarding the situation. FYI, I just published a full review of the Top 1% report @ http://www.clicknewz.com/1523/top-1-percent-review/ Thank you Joel – Lynne I hope that resolves your feelings regarding the situation.

FYI, I just published a full review of the Top 1% report @ http://www.clicknewz.com/1523/top-1-percent-review/

]]> By: Review: The Top 1% Report by Joel Comm http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-137366 Review: The Top 1% Report by Joel Comm Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:31:51 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-137366 [...] of the depths of Joel Comm’s recent Forced Continuity fiasco, comes a shiny new in-hand report titled The Top [...] [...] of the depths of Joel Comm’s recent Forced Continuity fiasco, comes a shiny new in-hand report titled The Top [...]

]]> By: Joel Comm http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-137308 Joel Comm Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:17:39 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-137308 Lynne, Call our offices at 970-278-0011 and we're more than happy to cancel your subscription and provide a refund. I'm sorry you feel the offer was deceptive. It wasn't. You didn't read the page. It was quite clear on both the sales page AND the order form. I could show you a bunch of marketers who offers something similar and don't reveal what they are doing I went over and above the call of duty to make things simple for those who didn't read the offer clearly. What's more, NO ONE was billed until they received a free isuse and DVD. And furthermore, we always give refunds. Joel Lynne,

Call our offices at 970-278-0011 and we’re more than happy to cancel your subscription and provide a refund. I’m sorry you feel the offer was deceptive. It wasn’t. You didn’t read the page. It was quite clear on both the sales page AND the order form. I could show you a bunch of marketers who offers something similar and don’t reveal what they are doing I went over and above the call of duty to make things simple for those who didn’t read the offer clearly. What’s more, NO ONE was billed until they received a free isuse and DVD. And furthermore, we always give refunds.

Joel

]]> By: Lynne May http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-137279 Lynne May Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:10:26 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-137279 I fell prey to Joel Comm's deceptive marketing techniques and am still trying to get the subscription to the Top 1% off of my credit card. His apology does not seem quite credible considering the fact that he is an experienced internet marketer and KNEW what he was doing when he did it. I am permanently distrustful of and disgusted by ANYTHING with the name of Joel Comm connected to it and am posting to this effect in all forums that I frequent. I fell prey to Joel Comm’s deceptive marketing techniques and am still trying to get the subscription to the Top 1% off of my credit card.

His apology does not seem quite credible considering the fact that he is an experienced internet marketer and KNEW what he was doing when he did it.

I am permanently distrustful of and disgusted by ANYTHING with the name of Joel Comm connected to it and am posting to this effect in all forums that I frequent.

]]> By: dotcomsecretsuk.com » Blog Archive » Day 5 Making your first buck online http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129949 dotcomsecretsuk.com » Blog Archive » Day 5 Making your first buck online Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:20:15 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129949 [...] Rule 3 of affiliate marketing - Do not take anything at face value, read the small print and be informed as to what your promoting regardless of whose product it is. (Just look at the stir kicked up by Joel Comm’s new product launch) [...] [...] Rule 3 of affiliate marketing – Do not take anything at face value, read the small print and be informed as to what your promoting regardless of whose product it is. (Just look at the stir kicked up by Joel Comm’s new product launch) [...]

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129520 Lynn Terry Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:23:35 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129520 Perfect - great feedback. Thank you Mitch! Perfect – great feedback. Thank you Mitch!

]]> By: Mitch http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129519 Mitch Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:20:28 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129519 I hated the forced continuity thing, and I'm glad Joel removed it. True, his apology letter might have been used for advertising, but at that point he really didn't have many options, and those who were predisposed to be cynical afterwards were going to be so. Personally, I bought the book after the apology letter, and I'm glad I did. I hated the forced continuity thing, and I’m glad Joel removed it. True, his apology letter might have been used for advertising, but at that point he really didn’t have many options, and those who were predisposed to be cynical afterwards were going to be so. Personally, I bought the book after the apology letter, and I’m glad I did.

]]> By: Leesa Barnes - Podcasting Expert and Author of Podcasting for Profit » Hidden Continuity is a Lousy Sales Tactic http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129455 Leesa Barnes - Podcasting Expert and Author of Podcasting for Profit » Hidden Continuity is a Lousy Sales Tactic Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:47:40 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129455 [...] got wind of it via Michel Fortin’s blog. Lynn Terry goes into more detail. Apparently, there’s a product that was recently launched that didn’t make it clear [...] [...] got wind of it via Michel Fortin’s blog. Lynn Terry goes into more detail. Apparently, there’s a product that was recently launched that didn’t make it clear [...]

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129437 Lynn Terry Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:25:37 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129437 LOL Anna - My day was pretty great, thanks for asking :D I loved your analogy about the hosiery club - good one! Going back to that point about accountability in regards to Affiliates for Joel Comm's latest release... I wasnt the only one on the block that skimmed & clicked & then recommended it without noticing the 'catch'. See Darren Rowse's post at: http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/04/20/adsense-secrets-40-launches/ ;) LOL Anna – My day was pretty great, thanks for asking :D I loved your analogy about the hosiery club – good one!

Going back to that point about accountability in regards to Affiliates for Joel Comm’s latest release… I wasnt the only one on the block that skimmed & clicked & then recommended it without noticing the ‘catch’. See Darren Rowse’s post at: http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/04/20/adsense-secrets-40-launches/ ;)

]]> By: Anna Barbosa http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129436 Anna Barbosa Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:16:12 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129436 I am completely frustrated and turned off by forced continuity even when it is transparent. I would like to be able to buy a product without having to remember to cancel my forced membership. What is really insane is buying a product from a marketer, getting on the forced continuity, then buying another product from same marketer and yes, once again, automatic sign up. This has happened to me, two memberships to the same program, double the value! I can't imagine going to my local department store wanting to buy a pair of shoes and being told I can't have them unless I buy a membership to the monthly hosiery club. ahhh... I'm done. .....and how was your day:) I am completely frustrated and turned off by forced continuity even when it is transparent. I would like to be able to buy a product without having to remember to cancel my forced membership. What is really insane is buying a product from a marketer, getting on the forced continuity, then buying another product from same marketer and yes, once again, automatic sign up. This has happened to me, two memberships to the same program, double the value! I can’t imagine going to my local department store wanting to buy a pair of shoes and being told I can’t have them unless I buy a membership to the monthly hosiery club.
ahhh… I’m done. …..and how was your day:)

]]> By: The Real Sinister Side of Forced Continuity | The Michel Fortin Blog http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129423 The Real Sinister Side of Forced Continuity | The Michel Fortin Blog Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:24:44 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129423 [...] plenty of debate going on right now discussing those issues, on blogs and forums, many of which are beyond the scope [...] [...] plenty of debate going on right now discussing those issues, on blogs and forums, many of which are beyond the scope [...]

]]> By: Web Success Diva http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129372 Web Success Diva Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:42:47 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129372 This is a great post and I'm so glad someone like you has taken it head on. Your points are valid and absolutely true! Thanks, Maria :-) This is a great post and I’m so glad someone like you has taken it head on. Your points are valid and absolutely true!

Thanks,
Maria :-)

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129330 Lynn Terry Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:19:35 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129330 A good point was brought up in the <a href="http://www.clicknewz.com/1449/download-joel-comms-97-guide-for-under-10/#comment-129329">other thread</a> about accountability - and whether Joel's affiliates should be held accountable for the way his product was promoted (as a 9.95 one-off sale). I do take personal responsibility. And so you know, there is no commission on the recurring subscription (ie the Forced Continuity) with Joel's product release. The affiliates that promoted the product were to receive commission on the front-end sale, and also on the back-end sale if there was one. Period. I hope that its evident both from my DUH moment in the original thread where the FC was brought to my attention, and my follow-up emails sharing that information with my readers, that I did not intentionally skip over disclosure of the details. I simply missed those details myself, which is what made me realize the magnitude of the problem. I've certainly learned my own lesson in accountability, and I do agree that affiliates have a personal responsibility in these matters. I can say this - I'll read the fine print more carefully the next time I recommend a product ;) A good point was brought up in the other thread about accountability – and whether Joel’s affiliates should be held accountable for the way his product was promoted (as a 9.95 one-off sale).

I do take personal responsibility. And so you know, there is no commission on the recurring subscription (ie the Forced Continuity) with Joel’s product release. The affiliates that promoted the product were to receive commission on the front-end sale, and also on the back-end sale if there was one. Period.

I hope that its evident both from my DUH moment in the original thread where the FC was brought to my attention, and my follow-up emails sharing that information with my readers, that I did not intentionally skip over disclosure of the details.

I simply missed those details myself, which is what made me realize the magnitude of the problem.

I’ve certainly learned my own lesson in accountability, and I do agree that affiliates have a personal responsibility in these matters. I can say this – I’ll read the fine print more carefully the next time I recommend a product ;)

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/comment-page-1/#comment-129321 Lynn Terry Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:19:59 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/1458/forced-continuity/#comment-129321 <blockquote>it would have been far better in my opinion as you had spotted what he was up to (as you say in a response to a comment on your post) if you had warned us - YOUR readers.</blockquote> Ahh, but I did. I sent out an email right away :)

it would have been far better in my opinion as you had spotted what he was up to (as you say in a response to a comment on your post) if you had warned us – YOUR readers.

Ahh, but I did. I sent out an email right away :)

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