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	<description>Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies &#38; Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM...</description>
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		<title>By: Flash Design</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-234350</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You put it very clear. Once I heard about a technique to make sure you focus on visitor experience and value. It said &quot;do not start monetizing your website until you have at least 30 pure content pages&quot;. Also, do not submit it to directories before you have 30 content pages. I know this calmed me down. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You put it very clear. Once I heard about a technique to make sure you focus on visitor experience and value. It said &#8220;do not start monetizing your website until you have at least 30 pure content pages&#8221;. Also, do not submit it to directories before you have 30 content pages. I know this calmed me down. <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Katie Radisson</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-175404</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Radisson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I agree it is a hard one to judge but here is an example for you to pass judgement on. Is this spam or enthusiasm and the need to spread the word?

Here is a post I just put on another SEO blog:

SEO I believe has to be the key to online success as adwords are now way too expensive.

But what if you do all the SEO stuff and it works but your site conversion doesn&#039;t work for all the traffic you now have?

Site design is such a subjective thing and how do you know if, when you decide what to use and do, it works or not really?

BUT it is so important to get it right as if you do it&#039;s worth a fortune and if you don&#039;t it could cost you a fortune.

I am so happy that I have discovered this web marketers tool for example and I am just so excited to have finally found a tool like this I can&#039;t begin to tell you!

It is free for a good single site owner user and you only have to pay if you use it on more than three sites.

Without a doubt it is the absolute best tool I have ever seen or used and because of the free test I got I am now using it on everything I do.

It is so insightful I am now going to redesign my sites (with confidence!) as finally I can see what needs doing because of this tool.

I canâ€™t say more than that except that if you have a site and you care about getting it right then you really need to consider this tool http://budurl.com/musthavetool
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So what do you say? 

My believe is that I found a product we should all know about as it is such a difference maker to REALLY know what people do when they hit your site and to have a chance at tweaking because of the evidence you see..

If that is spam then there is something wrong with the world :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I agree it is a hard one to judge but here is an example for you to pass judgement on. Is this spam or enthusiasm and the need to spread the word?</p>
<p>Here is a post I just put on another SEO blog:</p>
<p>SEO I believe has to be the key to online success as adwords are now way too expensive.</p>
<p>But what if you do all the SEO stuff and it works but your site conversion doesn&#8217;t work for all the traffic you now have?</p>
<p>Site design is such a subjective thing and how do you know if, when you decide what to use and do, it works or not really?</p>
<p>BUT it is so important to get it right as if you do it&#8217;s worth a fortune and if you don&#8217;t it could cost you a fortune.</p>
<p>I am so happy that I have discovered this web marketers tool for example and I am just so excited to have finally found a tool like this I can&#8217;t begin to tell you!</p>
<p>It is free for a good single site owner user and you only have to pay if you use it on more than three sites.</p>
<p>Without a doubt it is the absolute best tool I have ever seen or used and because of the free test I got I am now using it on everything I do.</p>
<p>It is so insightful I am now going to redesign my sites (with confidence!) as finally I can see what needs doing because of this tool.</p>
<p>I canâ€™t say more than that except that if you have a site and you care about getting it right then you really need to consider this tool <a href="http://budurl.com/musthavetool" >http://budurl.com/musthavetool</a><br />
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<p>So what do you say? </p>
<p>My believe is that I found a product we should all know about as it is such a difference maker to REALLY know what people do when they hit your site and to have a chance at tweaking because of the evidence you see..</p>
<p>If that is spam then there is something wrong with the world <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Max Entin</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-174672</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Entin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good and clear way to see what side of the line you&#039;re on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good and clear way to see what side of the line you&#8217;re on.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-174619</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, our SEO is terrible. Perhaps for reasons you describe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, our SEO is terrible. Perhaps for reasons you describe?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. One thing I&#039;ve found as an owner of multiple websites is that it&#039;s very easy to become sucked into the whole world of black-hat marketing.

For instance you often see people post comments on marketing forums about how much money they&#039;re making, and if they&#039;re actually making more than you it can be extremely tempting to join them on the other side in the pursuit of higher profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. One thing I&#8217;ve found as an owner of multiple websites is that it&#8217;s very easy to become sucked into the whole world of black-hat marketing.</p>
<p>For instance you often see people post comments on marketing forums about how much money they&#8217;re making, and if they&#8217;re actually making more than you it can be extremely tempting to join them on the other side in the pursuit of higher profits.</p>
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		<title>By: mikerambling</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikerambling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, my name is mike, i just become your follower in twitter, nice article and it does make you wonder in which category you are in. 

mikerambling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, my name is mike, i just become your follower in twitter, nice article and it does make you wonder in which category you are in. </p>
<p>mikerambling</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-173366</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynn

Very nice article but, I do somewhat disagree with the &quot;Its actually a big bold line&quot;.  I feel it is a thin line that isn&#039;t always straight but curved.

In today&#039;s world oursourcing has made it all to easy to hire someone to do our writting for us. I know as a fact that ghost writers will write articles, blog posts,  testimonials, and even term papers (thats scarey).

I feel that if an article or posted content is relevant and useful to the subject/niche it has served it&#039;s helpful purpose. Then it is up to the publisher/marketer to decide how it will be published. 

The use of multiple accounts doesn&#039;t change the content. Should it matter to me who wrote the information I read that helped me decide of my own free will to either purchase or not? As long as I the buyer am not held captive I can still purchase from anywhere I choose.

Now if, I&#039;m hijacked or had affiliate stealing software installed on my PC without my knowledgable consent then the marketer is operating in a non-ethical way. By &quot;knowledgable&quot; I mean not buried in the super small fine print of some cool tool software license agreement that I downloaded.

Anyway, at the end of the day business is still a competitive arena and the objective of the business is to earn a profit. Anything else would be considered a hobby.

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynn</p>
<p>Very nice article but, I do somewhat disagree with the &#8220;Its actually a big bold line&#8221;.  I feel it is a thin line that isn&#8217;t always straight but curved.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s world oursourcing has made it all to easy to hire someone to do our writting for us. I know as a fact that ghost writers will write articles, blog posts,  testimonials, and even term papers (thats scarey).</p>
<p>I feel that if an article or posted content is relevant and useful to the subject/niche it has served it&#8217;s helpful purpose. Then it is up to the publisher/marketer to decide how it will be published. </p>
<p>The use of multiple accounts doesn&#8217;t change the content. Should it matter to me who wrote the information I read that helped me decide of my own free will to either purchase or not? As long as I the buyer am not held captive I can still purchase from anywhere I choose.</p>
<p>Now if, I&#8217;m hijacked or had affiliate stealing software installed on my PC without my knowledgable consent then the marketer is operating in a non-ethical way. By &#8220;knowledgable&#8221; I mean not buried in the super small fine print of some cool tool software license agreement that I downloaded.</p>
<p>Anyway, at the end of the day business is still a competitive arena and the objective of the business is to earn a profit. Anything else would be considered a hobby.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Kulp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Kulp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynn,

Very interesting read.  I like the white/grey/black examples you give.

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynn,</p>
<p>Very interesting read.  I like the white/grey/black examples you give.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-172913</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lynn. I&#039;m a newbie and these lines can be complicated for us I think. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lynn. I&#8217;m a newbie and these lines can be complicated for us I think. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hurley</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-172879</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynn,

How do you classify links that are placed in blog comments or in the main body (not sig file) of a forum post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynn,</p>
<p>How do you classify links that are placed in blog comments or in the main body (not sig file) of a forum post?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin AKA BrainWaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin AKA BrainWaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lynn is very right to take &quot;door spam&quot; and all the other crap into account. The problem is not so much some little marketer trying to gain visitors and attention and a bit of love... the problem is the overall &quot;spammy&quot; mindset of our society that is largely based on &quot;creating needs&quot; and selling useless crap to people who do not actually want or need it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lynn is very right to take &#8220;door spam&#8221; and all the other crap into account. The problem is not so much some little marketer trying to gain visitors and attention and a bit of love&#8230; the problem is the overall &#8220;spammy&#8221; mindset of our society that is largely based on &#8220;creating needs&#8221; and selling useless crap to people who do not actually want or need it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eBizznessBasics.com Â» Are You A Spammer?</title>
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		<dc:creator>eBizznessBasics.com Â» Are You A Spammer?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The one that I was most interested in she called &#8220;Marketing vs Spamming: The Fine Line&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The one that I was most interested in she called &#8220;Marketing vs Spamming: The Fine Line&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/1699/marketing-vs-spamming/comment-page-1/#comment-172724</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sometimes we stuck on &quot;spamming like&quot; mail to promote our new business, even we using someone else to send the email in exchange of some prize, that&#039;s what I have thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sometimes we stuck on &#8220;spamming like&#8221; mail to promote our new business, even we using someone else to send the email in exchange of some prize, that&#8217;s what I have thought</p>
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		<title>By: Feedback Secrets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feedback Secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you own a website for recreational 
purposes most of us are here to make money, and as you mentioned black hat techniques certainly can bring in the bucks.

With that in mind I think the choice to be white, grey or black hat is largely a matter of what you yourself are comfortable with and what it is that you would like to be know for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you own a website for recreational<br />
purposes most of us are here to make money, and as you mentioned black hat techniques certainly can bring in the bucks.</p>
<p>With that in mind I think the choice to be white, grey or black hat is largely a matter of what you yourself are comfortable with and what it is that you would like to be know for.</p>
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		<title>By: DeAnna</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeAnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the one about &quot;door spam.&quot; That was very original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the one about &#8220;door spam.&#8221; That was very original.</p>
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