Hey Jayne – how are ya?

This is a non-issue in my opinion. The men in this industry have always been generous and supportive. And there is no corporate ladder. We are all independent, and support network or not, our success is our personal responsibility – and our lifestyle is our choice.

Any woman who came out with a course that paid $500-$1500 in commission would be welcomed on the launch scene, no doubt.

As for Andy Jenkins – I wish him well in his new ventures. He’ll definitely be missed as “the face of StomperNet” but Brad Fallon is brilliant… and I’m sure we’ll continue to see Andy on the IM scene.

Jayne – let’s be sure to have a coffee next week at SNL8

-Lynn

Thomas – Stompernet Member

For MY thoughts on this topic, see my latest post at: http://www.clicknewz.com/1748/breaking-into-the-boys-club/

SN can learn from this…They are the dominant organization in SEO and all “growed up” from the Brad and Andy show from years back. There are legitimate opportunities for improvement and should be taken as such. Much of what I heard were not personal attacks and should not be taken personally.

Instead of what might be interpreted as an overly sensitive response to a handful of mean-spirited, jealous critics it might have been better to accept the feedback, acknowledge that “we blew this one,” and learn from the mistake.

Damn, it’s tough at the top

Then, there’s also the fact that some of the info taught was not accurate and I often knew more than the teacher. But, I digress.

To each his own in running a business. I don’t plan to buy any more Stomper services.

The IM boys club you refer to is now generally known as “the clique”.

It’s a pity that SN has copped such a beating about this because people make direct comments about you and your org. obviously don’t have the facts.

The thing is, had your first post been like your last one you could have headed all this at the pass so to speak.

And Andy… when your org. is under attack, methinks it is not such a good idea to have other people post answers onbehalf of your org.

But keep up the good work… cause in the end that’s all that can be tested. And yes… I agree… unlike “the clique” your org. is doing something to further women’s issues in the IM arena.

This is Dr. Kangaroo and I’m lookin’ after the little guy – Gonna test your hype.

Oh no you didn’t…

To suggest that the issue is not “weighty enough” for me to respond is just lame. It’s lame, Pat. Not only have I responded to this issue by providing actual ACTION in the form of REAL support to woman in the internet marketing space, I made sure that the woman that are part of StomperNet were the FIRST group to be heard from on the topic.

I didn’t and won’t respond to being called a male chauvinist pig – not matter how important the matter is. And to suggest that you’re not impressed because HUMOR was used in the context of this issue is picking nits.

The fact is, I’ve SCREAMED that there’s inequality in the IM space from the TOP OF MY LUNGS.

The difference between StomperNet and everyone else that pays it lip service is that WE’RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

So let’s end the “Andy Jenkins is a bad guy” talk because the response to this issue came from the woman that are a major part of StomperNet and not Andy Jenkins.

It’s pretty disingenuous to take shots at us…

When almost half of my organization is made up of women in executive positions…

When I’ve got several woman faculty members, (not just Audrey — my *cough* woman PARTNER)…

When StomperNet has 3 articles from Woman in The Net Effect Journal (Including one from Lynn, thank you very much)

When StomperNet’s membership is on average 2x the number of woman than other IM “boys’ clubs”…

When StomperNet has held the ONLY “Woman in Business” panel discussion at a live IM seminar…

…suggesting that I don’t think the issue is weighty is… I dunno – how about WRONG?

I mean honestly, we are ACTIVELY doing more than our share of advancing the female presence and voice in this space. What in the world would possess you take a shot at me?

You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts – Seriously, other than an IM company that’s owned and operated by a woman, WHO ELSE is doing as much as we are?

No One. And for the record, ask Donna Fox what I talked to her about at Eben Pagan’s meet-up. I’ll give you a hint: Even STRONGER support for woman in IM.

Aim your cannons elsewhere, you’ve got the wrong target – we’re TRYING TO HELP.

Sheesh.

The “LIST” is owned by the clique and it exists only for the clique!

The sisterhood needs to get it’s own clique going. Too many women out there doing it by themselves!

This is Dr. Kangaroo and I’m lookin’ out for the little guy! – Gonna test your hype!

this is a conversation I had with a chap named guru secrets

me: I will have you know I am pretty advanced….my ambition is to teach SEO and website design to women so they begin to enjoy these lucrative incomes that you men have….YAY!
gurusecrets: i am putting some final touches on the
video training 1st step keyword research and you are not kidding 97% of my visitors
are male its nuts! i cant wait for you to
be that example

A response from some lady in the stomper net team who knows Andy Jenkins is great, but it doesn’t address the real issue here
i) As donna fox has shown time and time again internet marketers are sexist (here recent attendance of eben pagans deal)
ii) sexism does exist

this is time for dialogue and that piece was in poor taste using swear words as a means of communicating does not impress.

You know it’s like those crazy folk that keep telling me racism is a fallacy…hmmm well not to get political, however that response not coming from Andy Jenkins himself seems to indicate that the issue is not weighty enough to merit a response from him?
Arrrrgh!

I loved this post. keep it coming lynn!

Audrey Kerwood is one, Sydney Johnston is another and we likely have more in the works. So…

PS Wasn’t trying to be hostile, sorry you took it that way.

And there’s a big difference between writing for the CEO, doing the work of a CFO, being a teacher to the membership, handling the entire moderation of a premium international community’s forums…and doing ‘clerical work.’