Comments on: Internet Marketer = Bad Reputation http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/ Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies & Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM... Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:36:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sheppard http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-25459 Sheppard Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:45:32 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-25459 What a great post. This is somewhat timely...I purchased a complex of products from an IM ( I will not name him yet. I'm not ready to be banned from buying any of his products just yet.) To date only half of them work as advertised. There is no way to contact him, no way to ask for help or explanations of why the software is acting up, or the possibility of some small adjustment on my part. This is bad business. The IM's reputatin is so solid that novices like me hag on 'till I get educated enough and successful enough to 'fly on my own'. This is really frustrating! What a great post. This is somewhat timely…I purchased a complex of products from an IM ( I will not name him yet. I’m not ready to be banned from buying any of his products just yet.) To date only half of them work as advertised. There is no way to contact him, no way to ask for help or explanations of why the software is acting up, or the possibility of some small adjustment on my part. This is bad business. The IM’s reputatin is so solid that novices like me hag on ’till I get educated enough and successful enough to ‘fly on my own’. This is really frustrating!

]]> By: Mike http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-25283 Mike Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:35:27 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-25283 Lynn, Of course it is our decision to buy or not to buy, but I prefer to make those decisions based on truthful statements and not lies and hype. For the record I have only once asked for a refund and that was because I was charged twice after ordering trouble. (and I have bought various things that didn't live up to their sales letter claims and not asked for any refund on those) The refund was not "easily obtained, and offered without question". In fact after roughly 7 emails in as many weeks there was only a lame excuse and still no refund. By then unfortunately it was too late to go for a charge back. Was on some mailing list where the editor described the same issue with the same person when she asked for a refund on the same product (uninspired attempt at making software). The person in question associates with loads of "brand name" Internet marketers who promoted this product in the first place. I didn't like the product but I only asked for a refund for the second charge, not for both. Copywriters seems to stretch the truth so far that it becomes transparent. Personally I think the bad reputation of quite a few Internet marketers is well deserved. It seems all to obvious that those who make the most noise care the least about their "customers". Lynn,

Of course it is our decision to buy or not to buy, but I prefer to make those decisions based on truthful statements and not lies and hype.

For the record I have only once asked for a refund and that was because I was charged twice after ordering trouble. (and I have bought various things that didn’t live up to their sales letter claims and not asked for any refund on those)

The refund was not “easily obtained, and offered without question”. In fact after roughly 7 emails in as many weeks there was only a lame excuse and still no refund. By then unfortunately it was too late to go for a charge back.

Was on some mailing list where the editor described the same issue with the same person when she asked for a refund on the same product (uninspired attempt at making software).

The person in question associates with loads of “brand name” Internet marketers who promoted this product in the first place. I didn’t like the product but I only asked for a refund for the second charge, not for both.

Copywriters seems to stretch the truth so far that it becomes transparent.

Personally I think the bad reputation of quite a few Internet marketers is well deserved.

It seems all to obvious that those who make the most noise care the least about their “customers”.

]]> By: The Daily Scan - 1 June 2007 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-25193 The Daily Scan - 1 June 2007 Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:30:36 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-25193 [...] Who? - Today's "Who" focus falls on Lynn Terry. Lynn has a few blog posts released lately revolving around Internet Marketing and the tactics used by some marketers. Some may find them controversial(slightly), but on the whole I feel she has a few points. The post that spurns the most thought in my head is "Has Internet Marketing become a dirty word?". I could very easily get philosophical with this one, but instead I'd be interested in hearing what you think… [...] [...] Who? – Today's "Who" focus falls on Lynn Terry. Lynn has a few blog posts released lately revolving around Internet Marketing and the tactics used by some marketers. Some may find them controversial(slightly), but on the whole I feel she has a few points. The post that spurns the most thought in my head is "Has Internet Marketing become a dirty word?". I could very easily get philosophical with this one, but instead I'd be interested in hearing what you think… [...]

]]> By: Anita @ Reviewlicious http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-25038 Anita @ Reviewlicious Thu, 31 May 2007 12:02:22 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-25038 I don't believe that Internet Marketing is a 'dirty' word - but I do believe that it is made to look that by some in the business. I think the problem arises from people who are not in the business with their hearts. Hense they sell anything to anyone without regard for people's time or needs. A true marketer is in to make people's lives better - it makes sence that if you give people what they want/need they will take it... Funny how a lot of the IM comunity has missed that point :o) I don’t believe that Internet Marketing is a ‘dirty’ word – but I do believe that it is made to look that by some in the business.

I think the problem arises from people who are not in the business with their hearts. Hense they sell anything to anyone without regard for people’s time or needs.

A true marketer is in to make people’s lives better – it makes sence that if you give people what they want/need they will take it… Funny how a lot of the IM comunity has missed that point :o )

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-1730 Teli Adlam Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:42:50 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-1730 Agreed. :) ~ Teli Agreed. :)

~ Teli

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-1729 Lynn Terry Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:32:17 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-1729 Wow, yeah - and thanks for the link. I agree with you on the promotional emails... I am seeing the same in my own inbox. There are obviously two sides to this coin, but the responsibility to find a solution is on the "experts". They have the ability to keep their readers/customers happy, and also to influence the market itself... Agreed? Wow, yeah – and thanks for the link. I agree with you on the promotional emails… I am seeing the same in my own inbox. There are obviously two sides to this coin, but the responsibility to find a solution is on the “experts”. They have the ability to keep their readers/customers happy, and also to influence the market itself…

Agreed?

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-1727 Teli Adlam Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:25:20 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-1727 In my original comment, I was about to leave a thought about gurus distancing themselves from their customers, but edited it. Instead, I made a fleeting comment about some gurus forgetting where they started when they reach the top. Then I came across a post on Dan Raine's blog, <a href="http://www.danraine.com/22/how-to-get-in-touch-with-a-guru/" title="How To Get In Touch With A Guru">How To Get In Touch With A Guru</a>, and felt it applied. ~ Teli In my original comment, I was about to leave a thought about gurus distancing themselves from their customers, but edited it. Instead, I made a fleeting comment about some gurus forgetting where they started when they reach the top.

Then I came across a post on Dan Raine’s blog, How To Get In Touch With A Guru, and felt it applied.

~ Teli

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/comment-page-1/#comment-1725 Teli Adlam Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:40:44 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/179/internet-marketer-bad-reputation/#comment-1725 Lynn, I hear ya. Based on personal experience (I'm on a number of opt-in lists), I believe once someone has been in the field long enough, one becomes jaded. A while back, a new product was released and within a 1 hour timespan I received <em>the exact same sales copy in my inbox over 35 times</em>. I spent the next 30 minute unsubscribing from more than half of those lists. It dawned on me that over the course of the list, the value-added content no longer outweighed the "buy this great new product now" sales pitches. What <em>really</em> got me was that not one of the list owners even bothered to add their own review or input on the product, they just copy/pasted what was given to them. Internet marketing isn't a dirty word to me, but I <em>do</em> become annoyed with some internet marketers. It's almost as though they forgot where they started when they reach the top... Personally, I understand we always have a choice, so I won't call anyone out unless I feel he deserves it. If I purchase a product, I do my best to give it a fair an impartial review or offer my opinions and that's the best anyoe can do. My 2 cents, ~ Teli Lynn,
I hear ya.

Based on personal experience (I’m on a number of opt-in lists), I believe once someone has been in the field long enough, one becomes jaded.

A while back, a new product was released and within a 1 hour timespan I received the exact same sales copy in my inbox over 35 times. I spent the next 30 minute unsubscribing from more than half of those lists. It dawned on me that over the course of the list, the value-added content no longer outweighed the “buy this great new product now” sales pitches.

What really got me was that not one of the list owners even bothered to add their own review or input on the product, they just copy/pasted what was given to them.

Internet marketing isn’t a dirty word to me, but I do become annoyed with some internet marketers. It’s almost as though they forgot where they started when they reach the top…

Personally, I understand we always have a choice, so I won’t call anyone out unless I feel he deserves it. If I purchase a product, I do my best to give it a fair an impartial review or offer my opinions and that’s the best anyoe can do.

My 2 cents,
~ Teli

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