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	<description>Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies &#38; Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM...</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Calacanis, Keynote at Affiliate Summit West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Calacanis, Keynote at Affiliate Summit West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Brito</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/278/integrity-calcanis-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-13353</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful response Lynn.</description>
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		<title>By: Lynn Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/278/integrity-calcanis-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-2379</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason,

I&#039;m curious - will you be using full disclosure on your model? Would you consider placing text in large bold letters beside each news story that was &#039;placed&#039; by one of your paid digg&#039;ers that says &quot;one of our contractors was paid to vote for this link&quot;?

If you did mark each of the links or articles that &#039;your people&#039; placed or bookmarked to meet their quota... it would reduce the credibility of the site dramatically. Especially considering it is an &quot;authority site&quot;...

Most of the PPP bloggers that I have had opportunity to visit openly talk about their association with PayPerPost. While they may not disclose each individual post as sponsored, some they do - and the rest should be worked in seamlessly. Of course, I&#039;m not the PPP Police, and neither are you...

What I post on my own blog, I have no qualms about - whether it be through PPP, an affiliate program, or other JV or 3rd party association. I&#039;m sure you&#039;re cool with what you&#039;re doing at Netscape as well - which I have no qualms about either, outside of this silly debate. 

More than anything, I am curious what your personal interests are in regards to PayPerPost. I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that you are gaining something through your incessant rants about them...

Best, 
Lynn Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious &#8211; will you be using full disclosure on your model? Would you consider placing text in large bold letters beside each news story that was &#8216;placed&#8217; by one of your paid digg&#8217;ers that says &#8220;one of our contractors was paid to vote for this link&#8221;?</p>
<p>If you did mark each of the links or articles that &#8216;your people&#8217; placed or bookmarked to meet their quota&#8230; it would reduce the credibility of the site dramatically. Especially considering it is an &#8220;authority site&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Most of the PPP bloggers that I have had opportunity to visit openly talk about their association with PayPerPost. While they may not disclose each individual post as sponsored, some they do &#8211; and the rest should be worked in seamlessly. Of course, I&#8217;m not the PPP Police, and neither are you&#8230;</p>
<p>What I post on my own blog, I have no qualms about &#8211; whether it be through PPP, an affiliate program, or other JV or 3rd party association. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re cool with what you&#8217;re doing at Netscape as well &#8211; which I have no qualms about either, outside of this silly debate. </p>
<p>More than anything, I am curious what your personal interests are in regards to PayPerPost. I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that you are gaining something through your incessant rants about them&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Lynn Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/278/integrity-calcanis-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, in relation to digg vs. Netscape, you know that digg is based on delicious.com right? Kevin Rose has said over and over again that he copied delicious and improved upon it. We improved upon digg, reddit, and delicious--we didn&#039;t steal the idea from digg. Voting for sites was not their innovation so we couldn&#039;t have!

In fact, even delicious copied the first wave of bookmarketing sites from the 90&#039;s... they made it better by adding tags and social software to it.

best, jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, in relation to digg vs. Netscape, you know that digg is based on delicious.com right? Kevin Rose has said over and over again that he copied delicious and improved upon it. We improved upon digg, reddit, and delicious&#8211;we didn&#8217;t steal the idea from digg. Voting for sites was not their innovation so we couldn&#8217;t have!</p>
<p>In fact, even delicious copied the first wave of bookmarketing sites from the 90&#8242;s&#8230; they made it better by adding tags and social software to it.</p>
<p>best, jason</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Netscape we paid people to:

a) find cool stories an put them in the system--any cool stories they like.
b) kill any spam in the system
c) teach people how to use social news sites (most folks are very new to this)

We did not pay them to blog or post about Netscape, and we were always 100% up front about their role in the site.

The problem with PayPerPost is that they let folks COVERTLY market products and services. Now, some of the PAyPerPost bloggers are upfront about the fact that they are paid, but many are not. Also, the advertisers on PayPerPost can tell you that they will only pay for good reviews! hello?!

So, my issue with PPP is the covert marketing. If people are up front about it I don&#039;t really care.

No one likes to be covertly marketed to--do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Netscape we paid people to:</p>
<p>a) find cool stories an put them in the system&#8211;any cool stories they like.<br />
b) kill any spam in the system<br />
c) teach people how to use social news sites (most folks are very new to this)</p>
<p>We did not pay them to blog or post about Netscape, and we were always 100% up front about their role in the site.</p>
<p>The problem with PayPerPost is that they let folks COVERTLY market products and services. Now, some of the PAyPerPost bloggers are upfront about the fact that they are paid, but many are not. Also, the advertisers on PayPerPost can tell you that they will only pay for good reviews! hello?!</p>
<p>So, my issue with PPP is the covert marketing. If people are up front about it I don&#8217;t really care.</p>
<p>No one likes to be covertly marketed to&#8211;do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran, you&#039;re an anonymous, gutless troll.

I find it amusing how anonymity makes people like yourself so brave. At least Lynn has the gonads to stand by her opinions by using her real name, not an alias linked to a nonexistant page.

Lynn,

The IP address is part of a block allocated to the Herndon, VA area and the abuse email address listed is abuse at rr dot com. That info, combined with your server logs should help pull back the curtain and expose the wizard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran, you&#8217;re an anonymous, gutless troll.</p>
<p>I find it amusing how anonymity makes people like yourself so brave. At least Lynn has the gonads to stand by her opinions by using her real name, not an alias linked to a nonexistant page.</p>
<p>Lynn,</p>
<p>The IP address is part of a block allocated to the Herndon, VA area and the abuse email address listed is abuse at rr dot com. That info, combined with your server logs should help pull back the curtain and expose the wizard.</p>
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		<title>By: Klumsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klumsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- :lol: -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  -</p>
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		<title>By: fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry LT, the tone of your response was woefully &quot;inadequate.&quot;

Oooooooooh, look, an IP address!!!!!! Now THAT is wild. You go girl.

Toodles,
Frana-banana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry LT, the tone of your response was woefully &#8220;inadequate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oooooooooh, look, an IP address!!!!!! Now THAT is wild. You go girl.</p>
<p>Toodles,<br />
Frana-banana</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/278/integrity-calcanis-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blind Whore? LOL I&#039;m willing to bet that &quot;Fran&quot; is not really &quot;Fran&quot; ;-)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Name: fran &#124; E-mail: fran@gmail.com &#124; URI: http://none &#124; IP: 66.108.32.162 &#124;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your response is so biased that its hard to respond to. I could easily turn that around and say:

&quot;If you cant see the difference between deceptively voting a news story or article into popularity on an authority site and posting text links and honest opinions that are sponsored... then there is no point in taking *your* views seriously&quot;

Sorry to disappoint you, &quot;Fran&quot;, but you didnt leave me squirming. You just made yourself look like a desperate A-Lister that is hiding behind a womans name to make a weak point.

The purpose of this post was not to argue PayPerPost, it was to argue &quot;integrity&quot; and reveal a hypocritical point of view. 

As for your ending comment about how PPP defines the Tone that is set for each opportunity - I dont get your point about it being &quot;wild&quot;. A blogger reviews the opportunities, chooses the ones that apply to their blog and to them personally, and posts or passes based on the criteria required. 

Many advertisers select &#039;neutral&#039;, meaning that you have complete editorial control over the slant of your blog post - which is how it should be. The ones that are required to be &#039;positive&#039; are only taken by those that actually have something positive to say about that particular site/topic/product. The &#039;negative&#039; opps are so rare that I dont think I&#039;ve even run across one yet.

If you knew anything at all about PPP, you&#039;d already know that though...

Best, 
Lynn Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blind Whore? LOL I&#8217;m willing to bet that &#8220;Fran&#8221; is not really &#8220;Fran&#8221; <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Name: fran | E-mail: <a href="mailto:fran@gmail.com">fran@gmail.com</a> | URI: <a href="http://none" >http://none</a> | IP: 66.108.32.162 |</p></blockquote>
<p>Your response is so biased that its hard to respond to. I could easily turn that around and say:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you cant see the difference between deceptively voting a news story or article into popularity on an authority site and posting text links and honest opinions that are sponsored&#8230; then there is no point in taking *your* views seriously&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to disappoint you, &#8220;Fran&#8221;, but you didnt leave me squirming. You just made yourself look like a desperate A-Lister that is hiding behind a womans name to make a weak point.</p>
<p>The purpose of this post was not to argue PayPerPost, it was to argue &#8220;integrity&#8221; and reveal a hypocritical point of view. </p>
<p>As for your ending comment about how PPP defines the Tone that is set for each opportunity &#8211; I dont get your point about it being &#8220;wild&#8221;. A blogger reviews the opportunities, chooses the ones that apply to their blog and to them personally, and posts or passes based on the criteria required. </p>
<p>Many advertisers select &#8216;neutral&#8217;, meaning that you have complete editorial control over the slant of your blog post &#8211; which is how it should be. The ones that are required to be &#8216;positive&#8217; are only taken by those that actually have something positive to say about that particular site/topic/product. The &#8216;negative&#8217; opps are so rare that I dont think I&#8217;ve even run across one yet.</p>
<p>If you knew anything at all about PPP, you&#8217;d already know that though&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Lynn Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Tres</title>
		<link>http://www.clicknewz.com/278/integrity-calcanis-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>Tres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! 

Why is no else pointing this out??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! AGREED! </p>
<p>Why is no else pointing this out??</p>
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		<title>By: fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, Lynn Terry, are a moron. If you can&#039;t see the difference between the act of submitting an actual news story to Netscape/Digg/etc and deceptively shilling for a product, then there is no point in taking your views seriously because you clearly lack any capacity for rational thought. You are a blind whore. Rock on.

Oh, before I leave you squirming for an inadequate response, here&#039;s some &quot;integrity&quot; directly from the PayPerPost website in their instructions to bloggers:

&quot;Tone - as determined by the advertiser, may be positive (speaking highly of something), neutral (more factual, not overly praising or harsh), or negative (critical, unfavorable, fault-finding).&quot;

Wild, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, Lynn Terry, are a moron. If you can&#8217;t see the difference between the act of submitting an actual news story to Netscape/Digg/etc and deceptively shilling for a product, then there is no point in taking your views seriously because you clearly lack any capacity for rational thought. You are a blind whore. Rock on.</p>
<p>Oh, before I leave you squirming for an inadequate response, here&#8217;s some &#8220;integrity&#8221; directly from the PayPerPost website in their instructions to bloggers:</p>
<p>&#8220;Tone &#8211; as determined by the advertiser, may be positive (speaking highly of something), neutral (more factual, not overly praising or harsh), or negative (critical, unfavorable, fault-finding).&#8221;</p>
<p>Wild, huh?</p>
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