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	<description>Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies &#38; Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM...</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Hartnett &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shiny, Happy WWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hartnett &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shiny, Happy WWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A New Look at Link-Building - The ClickNewz! Internet Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A New Look at Link-Building - The ClickNewz! Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To continue on with the theme ofÂ Adding Value to the Web,Â it&#8217;s important to take a new look at ourÂ Linking Strategy.Â I&#8217;ll justÂ pick up here where the discussion left off in the comments section of that post: People are starting to realize that â€œinbound linksâ€ (as theyâ€™ve been done in the past few years) arent the be-all-end-all of â€˜SEOâ€™ anymore&#8230; or at least won&#8217;t be for long. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To continue on with the theme ofÂ Adding Value to the Web,Â it&#8217;s important to take a new look at ourÂ Linking Strategy.Â I&#8217;ll justÂ pick up here where the discussion left off in the comments section of that post: People are starting to realize that â€œinbound linksâ€ (as theyâ€™ve been done in the past few years) arent the be-all-end-all of â€˜SEOâ€™ anymore&#8230; or at least won&#8217;t be for long. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Robert :D

&lt;em&gt;&gt;&gt;Why are they beating that horse to death?&lt;/em&gt;

I imagine because people are interested in finding out what works, and what doesnt. I think a lot of people are starting to realize that â€œinbound linksâ€ (as theyâ€™ve been done in the past few years) arent the be-all-end-all of â€˜SEOâ€™ anymore... or at least won&#039;t be for long.

And honestly, I&#039;m glad. Link building can be a tedious task with very little ROI (return on investment). There&#039;s just nothing enjoyable about it, in my opinion. But &lt;em&gt;social networking&lt;/em&gt;... now that&#039;s a different story ;)

That&#039;s not to say that good quality links shouldnt be sought after - because they &lt;strong&gt;should&lt;/strong&gt;. But all of this link submission, link requests, links pages, submitting to directories by the hundreds, etc - it&#039;s just not adding value to the web for the most part. Some directories, yes - hundreds or thousands, no.

I&#039;m thinking I&#039;ve rambled enough in this comment... perhaps I&#039;ll expand on this a bit in a new post this week :)

Best,
Lynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Robert <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>>>Why are they beating that horse to death?</em></p>
<p>I imagine because people are interested in finding out what works, and what doesnt. I think a lot of people are starting to realize that â€œinbound linksâ€ (as theyâ€™ve been done in the past few years) arent the be-all-end-all of â€˜SEOâ€™ anymore&#8230; or at least won&#8217;t be for long.</p>
<p>And honestly, I&#8217;m glad. Link building can be a tedious task with very little ROI (return on investment). There&#8217;s just nothing enjoyable about it, in my opinion. But <em>social networking</em>&#8230; now that&#8217;s a different story <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that good quality links shouldnt be sought after &#8211; because they <strong>should</strong>. But all of this link submission, link requests, links pages, submitting to directories by the hundreds, etc &#8211; it&#8217;s just not adding value to the web for the most part. Some directories, yes &#8211; hundreds or thousands, no.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;ve rambled enough in this comment&#8230; perhaps I&#8217;ll expand on this a bit in a new post this week <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand it, the &quot;fall&quot; of the Martell sites was in 2004 with the big Google update. Why are they beating that horse to death? He talked about it many times in his Affiliate Buzz audio newsletter ove the years and what he was doing to correct the problem on his newer sites.

Fantastic post, though.

I e-mailed this part to myself for future reference:

&quot;If you want to establish a long term income-generating eBusiness, then itâ€™s important to make your site(s) unique - to be creative, and to offer something of value on the web. If you put your thought into it from that end, youâ€™ll get much better results. Building sites just to make money is the â€œmethodâ€ that gets people â€œdelistedâ€ more often than not.

If you are doing business online, then you are obviously a surfer and a searcher yourself. So put your own ads/sites to the test and surf your way over to them. Psyche yourself out, get in the mode, and pretend you are your own ideal visitor. Is your website helpful, usefulâ€¦ easy to navigate? Do you find what youâ€™re looking for - easily?

At PubCon last week, Matt Cutts made this simple statement during the Google lunch: â€œThe idea is to get a good, clean web with relevant resultsâ€.&quot;

Thanks Lynn. You rock as always.

;-) Robert</description>
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<p>Fantastic post, though.</p>
<p>I e-mailed this part to myself for future reference:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to establish a long term income-generating eBusiness, then itâ€™s important to make your site(s) unique &#8211; to be creative, and to offer something of value on the web. If you put your thought into it from that end, youâ€™ll get much better results. Building sites just to make money is the â€œmethodâ€ that gets people â€œdelistedâ€ more often than not.</p>
<p>If you are doing business online, then you are obviously a surfer and a searcher yourself. So put your own ads/sites to the test and surf your way over to them. Psyche yourself out, get in the mode, and pretend you are your own ideal visitor. Is your website helpful, usefulâ€¦ easy to navigate? Do you find what youâ€™re looking for &#8211; easily?</p>
<p>At PubCon last week, Matt Cutts made this simple statement during the Google lunch: â€œThe idea is to get a good, clean web with relevant resultsâ€.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks Lynn. You rock as always.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Letian Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letian Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate seeing some of the e-books coming out to recommend those &quot;insta-ranking&quot; generator tools, only to hurt the internet marketing newbie&#039;s chances of success.

It&#039;s a difficult balance that search engines have to play. Google may sandbox a lot of newer sites to avoid spam, but this can also hurt their results by not revealing newer, GOOD content that comes. MSN seems to update the quickest and thus able to mine content a lot better (both good and spam). Yahoo&#039;s dive into social tag searching will offer yet another set of results to this mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate seeing some of the e-books coming out to recommend those &#8220;insta-ranking&#8221; generator tools, only to hurt the internet marketing newbie&#8217;s chances of success.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a difficult balance that search engines have to play. Google may sandbox a lot of newer sites to avoid spam, but this can also hurt their results by not revealing newer, GOOD content that comes. MSN seems to update the quickest and thus able to mine content a lot better (both good and spam). Yahoo&#8217;s dive into social tag searching will offer yet another set of results to this mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Value Vs. Spam - No Contest - EXSEO.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Value Vs. Spam - No Contest - EXSEO.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a great post over at Clicknewz entitled &#8220;Adding Value to the Web,&#8221; Lynn Terry talks about how search engine spammers work so hard at trying to keep ahead of the game by belching out mass quantities of worthless pages that &#8220;automatically rank well.&#8221; These spammers don&#8217;t seem to realize that they are constantly building up sites that are getting whacked by the SE&#8217;s almost as fast as they build them and they&#8217;ll work for years and have nothing in the end. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a great post over at Clicknewz entitled &#8220;Adding Value to the Web,&#8221; Lynn Terry talks about how search engine spammers work so hard at trying to keep ahead of the game by belching out mass quantities of worthless pages that &#8220;automatically rank well.&#8221; These spammers don&#8217;t seem to realize that they are constantly building up sites that are getting whacked by the SE&#8217;s almost as fast as they build them and they&#8217;ll work for years and have nothing in the end. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ruckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Ruckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Lynn,

I too have been  looking over my sites over the last few days. I&#039;ve been stripping away some of the more commercial material and adding things like quotes, know how&#039;s and that sort of thing. Although I still want to make money from the sites, I sure feel a lot better about myself at the end of the day, knowing that I am providing something useful to someone, other than providing something useful to someone just to earn a dollar. Great work Lynn-a real eye opener:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Lynn,</p>
<p>I too have been  looking over my sites over the last few days. I&#8217;ve been stripping away some of the more commercial material and adding things like quotes, know how&#8217;s and that sort of thing. Although I still want to make money from the sites, I sure feel a lot better about myself at the end of the day, knowing that I am providing something useful to someone, other than providing something useful to someone just to earn a dollar. Great work Lynn-a real eye opener:)</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Greg ;)

You make some great additional points. More and more I am seeing the internet as &#039;my web&#039;... and I find myself getting more particular about what I expect, which has had a big impact on what I want to &#039;put out there&#039;.

It will be interesting to see how things change across the web over the next few years. I predict things will change &lt;i&gt;dramatically&lt;/i&gt;...

-Lynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Greg <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You make some great additional points. More and more I am seeing the internet as &#8216;my web&#8217;&#8230; and I find myself getting more particular about what I expect, which has had a big impact on what I want to &#8216;put out there&#8217;.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how things change across the web over the next few years. I predict things will change <i>dramatically</i>&#8230;</p>
<p>-Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic post!  

once you shift your paradigm to see your development efforts in this way, the rest of your job gets easier.  additionally, if you are creating content of value, you will be able to rest easier at night, knowing that you are less prone to a delisting, or other catastrophic algorithm tweek designed to combat spammers.

and to strengthen matt&#039;s argument, once you have created a site with value to the user, then your site becomes as valuable to the engines as they are to you.  they need your good content site to help with their relevancy, and they will be happy to list you accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic post!  </p>
<p>once you shift your paradigm to see your development efforts in this way, the rest of your job gets easier.  additionally, if you are creating content of value, you will be able to rest easier at night, knowing that you are less prone to a delisting, or other catastrophic algorithm tweek designed to combat spammers.</p>
<p>and to strengthen matt&#8217;s argument, once you have created a site with value to the user, then your site becomes as valuable to the engines as they are to you.  they need your good content site to help with their relevancy, and they will be happy to list you accordingly.</p>
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