Comments on: Apology Accepted – John Reese Makes Good In A Long and Personal Email To His Readers http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/ Internet Marketing blog by Lynn Terry with How-to, Tips, Reviews, Case Studies & Ideas to help you succeed online. Known as the Voice of Integrity in IM... Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Battle of the Sexes? http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-37403 Battle of the Sexes? Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:21:02 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-37403 [...] The show was actually scheduled prior to the recent debates in Internet Marketing circles, or the debate about women in search. This is obviously a hot topic right now, and we’re hearing a lot of voices on the matter - from both men and women alike. [...] [...] The show was actually scheduled prior to the recent debates in Internet Marketing circles, or the debate about women in search. This is obviously a hot topic right now, and we’re hearing a lot of voices on the matter – from both men and women alike. [...]

]]> By: Sandra Sims http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34763 Sandra Sims Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:49:49 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34763 I'm (thankfully) late to this discussion since I too unsub'd from many lists. I have never been impressed by the RJ and certainly not this stunt... besides being crass and sexist it promotes the "get rich quick any way you can" mentality that is so destructive. That's really what bothers me most - IM newbies can get sucked in to this type of scam. Thankfully they have people like you, Lynn and Ros to set them straight! I’m (thankfully) late to this discussion since I too unsub’d from many lists.

I have never been impressed by the RJ and certainly not this stunt… besides being crass and sexist it promotes the “get rich quick any way you can” mentality that is so destructive. That’s really what bothers me most – IM newbies can get sucked in to this type of scam. Thankfully they have people like you, Lynn and Ros to set them straight!

]]> By: Carrie http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34668 Carrie Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:50:12 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34668 I already respected him a lot, and it took a lot of guts to send that email. He hasn't lost a fan here. I already respected him a lot, and it took a lot of guts to send that email. He hasn’t lost a fan here.

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34532 Lynn Terry Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:22:55 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34532 The entire thing was in bad taste. I think we all agree on that. From the event itself to the marketing strategy to the emails that were sent by the "major players". It will be interesting to see the long term effect that this has on Internet Marketing industry as a whole. I've seen it going downhill for awhile now and I predict we'll be looking back on this particular controversy as a major turning point. The entire thing was in bad taste. I think we all agree on that. From the event itself to the marketing strategy to the emails that were sent by the “major players”.

It will be interesting to see the long term effect that this has on Internet Marketing industry as a whole. I’ve seen it going downhill for awhile now and I predict we’ll be looking back on this particular controversy as a major turning point.

]]> By: Bonnie Boots http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34507 Bonnie Boots Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:47:17 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34507 Lynn, I largely ignore anyone that presents internet marketing as a field just for good ol’ boys to play in. Anyone connected to the real world knows the statistics: women make the majority of purchasing decisions. You offend them at your own risk. And I wasn’t bothered by the location of the event in question. In terms of sexual hedonism, the Playboy Mansion is surely passé. Anyone that’s watched on TV as three busty beauties parade around with the corpse of Hugh Heffner, ala “Weekend At Bernie’s,” can see for themselves that the only sexual activity likely to be going on there is necrophilia. No, what’s making this event noteworthy to me is the current crop of men shouting mea culpas followed by “but I’m going anyway because, despite the stink, it’s still a great opportunity.” Excuse me? This is where I get confused. Not by the mea culpas. I’m willing to believe any man that says he’s not sexist, even John Reese, who sadly trips over his tongue when he apologizes “to the hard-working WOMEN of the Internet Marketing industry” while pointing out that “…there will be 200-300 party guests and probably 10-15 girls working as waitresses and hostesses.” (Uh, Mr. Reese? Working women generally find it demeaning to be called “girl.”) No, what confuses me is that the men-folk are still going to the party. Even after they realize the whole affair offends a good many women. So let me ask this: If the event was being held at, say, the headquarters of the Ku Klux Klan, and the promotional material urged all red-blooded, white marketers to gather round for a night of business talk followed by a minstrel show, would anyone be going? I’m just asking. Lynn, I largely ignore anyone that presents internet marketing as a field just for good ol’ boys to play in. Anyone connected to the real world knows the statistics: women make the majority of purchasing decisions. You offend them at your own risk.

And I wasn’t bothered by the location of the event in question. In terms of sexual hedonism, the Playboy Mansion is surely passé. Anyone that’s watched on TV as three busty beauties parade around with the corpse of Hugh Heffner, ala “Weekend At Bernie’s,” can see for themselves that the only sexual activity likely to be going on there is necrophilia.

No, what’s making this event noteworthy to me is the current crop of men shouting mea culpas followed by “but I’m going anyway because, despite the stink, it’s still a great opportunity.”

Excuse me? This is where I get confused.

Not by the mea culpas. I’m willing to believe any man that says he’s not sexist, even John Reese, who sadly trips over his tongue when he apologizes “to the hard-working WOMEN of the Internet Marketing industry” while pointing out that “…there will be 200-300 party guests and probably 10-15 girls working as waitresses and hostesses.” (Uh, Mr. Reese? Working women generally find it demeaning to be called “girl.”)

No, what confuses me is that the men-folk are still going to the party. Even after they realize the whole affair offends a good many women. So let me ask this:

If the event was being held at, say, the headquarters of the Ku Klux Klan, and the promotional material urged all red-blooded, white marketers to gather round for a night of business talk followed by a minstrel show, would anyone be going? I’m just asking.

]]> By: Regina Baker http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34493 Regina Baker Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:00:31 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34493 Good for John! He's still allowed in my inbox :) Good for John! He’s still allowed in my inbox :)

]]> By: Lynn Terry http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34306 Lynn Terry Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:52:30 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34306 Agreed, Ros ;) Agreed, Ros ;)

]]> By: Rosalind Gardner http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34301 Rosalind Gardner Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:54:14 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34301 Hey Lynn, I too was relieved to see John step up to the plate and apologize - moreove RECOGNIZE exactly how the Jerk had excluded us from the fun. :-) I wrote him a personal note to accept his apology and acknowledged that it takes a REAL man to admit when he's wrong and apologize. Still pretty disappointed in some of those other fellows though. It'll probably be a matter of too little too late if they too follow suit at this point. Anyway, nice to know who our friends are... Cheers, Ros Hey Lynn,

I too was relieved to see John step up to the plate and apologize – moreove RECOGNIZE exactly how the Jerk had excluded us from the fun. :-)

I wrote him a personal note to accept his apology and acknowledged that it takes a REAL man to admit when he’s wrong and apologize.

Still pretty disappointed in some of those other fellows though. It’ll probably be a matter of too little too late if they too follow suit at this point.

Anyway, nice to know who our friends are…

Cheers,
Ros

]]> By: Carrie Wigal http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-34210 Carrie Wigal Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:58:04 +0000 http://www.clicknewz.com/904/apology-accepted-john-reese-makes-good-in-a-long-and-personal-email-to-his-readers/#comment-34210 I received the email from John promoting this event as well and I was really turned off by it. I didn't unsubscribe from his list because I still value what he had to say regarding IM based on past experience. I just didn't dwell on it. And I received the apology letter as well and found it very sincere. I was also pleased to see you mentioned there along with Alice and Rosalind (two other women who've had a huge influence on me). I've unsubscribed to many lists in the past, and have been very selective as to what I let into my inbox. I'm glad I stayed with John, as I do respect the work he's done and the information I've already gleaned from him. It just goes to show having a reputation...a GOOD reputation *is* worth something. I received the email from John promoting this event as well and I was really turned off by it. I didn’t unsubscribe from his list because I still value what he had to say regarding IM based on past experience. I just didn’t dwell on it.

And I received the apology letter as well and found it very sincere. I was also pleased to see you mentioned there along with Alice and Rosalind (two other women who’ve had a huge influence on me).

I’ve unsubscribed to many lists in the past, and have been very selective as to what I let into my inbox. I’m glad I stayed with John, as I do respect the work he’s done and the information I’ve already gleaned from him.

It just goes to show having a reputation…a GOOD reputation *is* worth something.

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