View Full Version : To Forum or Not To Forum, That is the Question
Chris Norman
October 15th, 2009, 12:03 PM
I was just thinking :eek: ouch that hurt! Seriously I was thinking about the use of forums in our own blogs. As you can tell from the SSWT forum, alot of people visit here and there is so much interaction in just one day.
Would a forum on your site increase traffic? I think it might. Has anyone tried this? I would love to hear any and all thoughts.
Look forward to the webinar today.(No I am not going to post about having webinars on our sites!:D)
Take care and have a productive day all!
Chris Norman
angienewton
October 15th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Forums take a lot of time and work. I would not recommend a forum unless you were really established and had a good following. That is just me though...
I'm sure it would increase traffic if you had a ton of great content to offer and had the time to devote to a forum.
Lynn Terry
October 15th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Hi Chris,
Forums are definitely great, but this being my 7th year running a forum I will tell you firsthand that it is A LOT of work. If you decide to consider it at all seriously, buy and read Managing Online Forums by Patrick O'Keefe (you can get it on Amazon).
Blogs also allow you to have a community feel and an ongoing conversation through commenting. See my blog at ClickNewz.com for an example of this - there are active discussions going on there every day as well (and much easier to manage/moderate than a traditional forum setup).
Adriana
October 15th, 2009, 01:32 PM
As you can tell from the SSWT forum, alot of people visit here and there is so much interaction in just one day.
That's because Lynn is very well known, and has a huge following. Once you do have that following it's OK, but trying it just to get traffic wouldn't work: your forum would be a ghost town :(
jkgourmet
October 15th, 2009, 01:37 PM
That's because Lynn is very well known, and has a huge following. Once you do have that following it's OK, but trying it just to get traffic wouldn't work: your forum would be a ghost town :(
Which I can tell you from personal experience, turns me off as a buyer and reader. I see an forum that's not very busy, I click away.
David Jackson
October 15th, 2009, 02:32 PM
Once you do have that following it's OK, but trying it just to get traffic wouldn't work: your forum would be a ghost town :(
I disagree with that. While I think having a following is important, it's definitely not a prerequisite to having a successful forum. After all, many of the successful forums that are around today, didn't start out with huge followings. That being said, having a following is definitely an asset.
However, I think the most important asset is having the ability to create a buzz around your forum. But that requires a certain degree of marketing competency. Not many people have that type of ability. Can it be acquired? Sure, but it takes time.
I'm in the process of launching my new forum, Reviews-by-Customers.com (http://reviews-by-customers.com)in about two weeks. And I can tell you from first-hand experience, there's a tremendous amount of work involved in forum ownership. Trust me on this, Chris. You have no idea what's involved in running a forum - and my forum isn't even live yet!
I started extensive research and preparation nearly a year ago - because there was so much to learn - not the least of which was the type of forum software I should use. I finally decided on VBulletin, because of its superior security features and user-friendly administrative console. However, it's not a decision I came to easily or overnight.
Chris, I'm not telling you not to start your own forum. All I'm saying is, do your homework.
David Jackson
VAnetworking
October 15th, 2009, 05:26 PM
I have a forum which I've been running for the past 5 years for Virtual Assistants and trust me when I say...IT's TONS OF WORK !!! LOL
Saying that it has all been worth it and brought plenty of traffic my way. In a nutshell, I created my own target market of Virtual Assistants by having this forum. At the time I was unknown (with no following) and I started out with just a handful of friends who were excellent at networking, loved virtual assistance and were good at chatting up a storm. Five years later I have over 12,232 registered members who have made a total of 116,386 posts and over 18,000 topics. It’s benefitted me not only in traffic for advertising revenue but I now also have a huge following of loyal customers who believe and trust in me to lead them right in the VA world that I can market to as well.
Again tons of work but definitely a good revenue stream for me in the end. It helps that I love participating at my niche market so most of the time it doesn’t feel like work to me if that makes sense but more like socializing with like-minded business entrepreneurs.
If you are going to do a forum, know getting into it that it will take up an ample part of your life. But if you niche it right, it could be very profitable for you too which is the end reward for all your time put into it.
And don’t worry about having a following to start with, I didn’t. One thing you will need however if you don’t have a strong following of people is a very niched forum that has a unique attraction to it be it free resources, content, downloads, special topics, etc. Be an inventor and come up with a new idea. Someone did a forum for Delica Vans that are imported from Japan that I belong to because we bought and imported one…very unique! See it here: http://www.delica.ca/ Also, look at your competitors online and consider if it wouldn’t be easier to become an affiliate for Lynn and push her forum instead of creating another Internet marketing forum.
I like the idea of having interaction via a blog as it is a ton less maintenance and something to consider over a forum.
robert adams
October 16th, 2009, 01:16 PM
I know I may be biased and I have never had a really busy forum, however;
In the beginning, a forum/board should not have to be all that much work.
Just install it and start posting about your subject. google etc. will find it very quickly and then you will start to get traffic.
post on other related board with a link in your sig file to your board.
put the link in your email sig file, etc.
promote it just like you would any other website.
As it grows, you then have to "hire" some moderators/admins to help you run your expanding forum "business" just like you would any other type of business.
There are many people with very successful boards that never even make a single post or visit their own boards.
A blog is mainly so that YOU can talk about whatever you want. It is not really designed to provide a place for discussion about things.
Yes, I know it can be done, but a bulletin board/forum is designed for it.
just my 6 cents worth ( obama inflation is coming ).
robert
David Jackson
October 16th, 2009, 01:44 PM
In the beginning, a forum/board should not have to be all that much work.
I beg to differ. If a forum has a lot of unique content, someone has to write all of that content. And on my forum, that someone is me. Writng pages and pages of content is not only time-consuming - IT'S A LOT OF WORK!
That doesn't even include the amount of time it takes to respond to posts, delete or amend certain posts and answer new member questions about how to use the forum. And I haven't even mentioned the technical aspects of maintaining a forum.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. It's a labor of love for me. But make no mistake about forum ownership - IT'S A LOT OF WORK!
David Jackson
robert adams
October 17th, 2009, 12:43 PM
I beg to differ. If a forum has a lot of unique content, someone has to write all of that content. And on my forum, that someone is me. Writng pages and pages of content is not only time-consuming - IT'S A LOT OF WORK!
That doesn't even include the amount of time it takes to respond to posts, delete or amend certain posts and answer new member questions about how to use the forum. And I haven't even mentioned the technical aspects of maintaining a forum.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. It's a labor of love for me. But make no mistake about forum ownership - IT'S A LOT OF WORK!
David Jackson
I said at the the beginning.
at the beginning, you don't have many members so there is not much work to moderate or admin a board.
as for content, normally your members create the content after you give them some basic discussions to get them started.
I know that some people will create many many forums and topics to try to make a board look like it is very busy to prospective members.
I agree that a busy large board would be a lot of work, but like I said, that is when you start adding moderators and admins etc. to take some of the load off you.
luck,
robert
David Jackson
October 17th, 2009, 02:15 PM
at the beginning, you don't have many members so there is not much work to moderate or admin a board.
Let's just agree to disagree, and leave it at that.
David Jackson
DannyCutts
October 18th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Hello everybody,
this is my first post so I thought I would say hello and give you my experiences with running forums.
I dont like to post a link on my first post but I run the biggest plastering forum I started it 2 years ago and it has been a tough task! I have had companies threatening legal action I have had death threats I have had all sorts of troubles however I have had members thank me for the advice and providing work for them ect.
The first year of running a forum is the toughest it can make or break you, I have a few tactics of building a forum up and getting it running but I started it with now advertising other than SEO and word of mouth.
The forum is now 90 new posts a day and about 5k of page veiws every day it has been mentioned on the radio (my dad emailed me telling me) I have ben on construction sites and plasterers are talking about it. When this happeneds this is what makes forums worth while!
I like blogs but I do like forums a little more!
All the best
Danny
Lynn Terry
October 18th, 2009, 12:32 PM
Welcome Danny :)
Feel free to put a link in your Signature File through your UserCP (http://www.selfstartersweeklytips.com/members/usercp.php). That's also where you can add a profile pic for your profile page, and an avatar to show up with each of your posts here.
Glad you joined us!
VAnetworking
October 24th, 2009, 05:02 PM
I know with my forum that most of our moderators and Admins are volunteers for the cause to help keep the forum free which takes quite a bit of the workload off me.
What do they get out of it? Well they get the power that's what! Just kidding hehehe...but they can establish themselves as Experts being moderators at a forum. For example, my forum has different forum sections ie) Bookkeeping, Microsoft Office, Blogging, etc. I'll put as a moderator for the Blogging forum area a person who is a whiz at blogging. Same for Bookkeeping forum, etc. It helps establish credibility for the volunteer moderator which in turn helps them in their business leads.
DannyCutts
October 24th, 2009, 11:14 PM
giving someone a moderator roll it makes them feel real good!! Also increases post count as they loook at everythread and normally jhave something to say!
Danny
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