Need SEO Help With A Website Page

[tomstark]

Hey, I just wanted to know why one of my articles on my website: Dirt Bike Trails (http://motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-trails/) is not getting ranked well. I have over 50 incoming links so far, which is more than most of the top 5. Is there anything I can do to better SEO this page? Thanks

[angienewton]

Tom,
My first initial thought was you have one paragraph that really has to do with dirt bike trails but then it goes on to dirt bike gear. It was a great review though. I saw that you had the phrase once or twice but I think it would need to be in there a little more.

Here is a great post by Lynn on web page optimization (http://www.clicknewz.com/2103/web-page-optimization/) that you might find really useful.

[tomstark]

Thanks Angie. Yeah, I see your point. I did use the key words "dirt bike," and "trails" more than a couple times though. I guess I'll have to change something about it.

[angienewton]

Tom,
Not sure if you know but dirt bike trails used exactly as is, is a pretty good keyword phrase so if you stick with that exact phrase throughout the content that is a good start. Dirt bike gear (another great phrase as is) could be used too maybe in that post instead of dirt bike trails. Just some thoughts.

[tomstark]

Tom,
Not sure if you know but dirt bike trails used exactly as is, is a pretty good keyword phrase so if you stick with that exact phrase throughout the content that is a good start. Dirt bike gear (another great phrase as is) could be used too maybe in that post instead of dirt bike trails. Just some thoughts.

Yeah, that's why I used it. I also did a some research a little bit ago and I might change it to Dirt Bike Gear or something similar.

[Ellen C Braun]

Hi Tom,

Could patience be the answer? It does take the SE's a bit of time to update their links- are most of your links quite new?

[jkgourmet]

I skimmed the article (nice looking work, btw), and noticed a couple of things that might be affecting this:

'dirt bike trails' is not the same as 'dirt bike trail'. I'm not sure, but I think 'dirt bike on trails' is a different kw phrase as well.

I only saw the exact kw phrase 'dirt bike trails' twice in the article - once in the title and once in the first paragraph. Those are prime spots, but maybe adding a couple of more times, getting some back links where that is the anchor text pointing to this specific page, doing a guest blog or an article (or both!) on 'dirt bike trails' with resource box pointing to this page?

'trail' or 'bike trail' or 'dirt bike' is not as directed / long tailed as 'dirt bike trail'. Much more general terms. Those terms are used quite a lot in the article.

[tomstark]

Hi Tom,

Could patience be the answer? It does take the SE's a bit of time to update their links- are most of your links quite new?

Yeah, it could be part of it. Most of the links are 2-4 weeks old.

[tomstark]

I skimmed the article (nice looking work, btw), and noticed a couple of things that might be affecting this:

'dirt bike trails' is not the same as 'dirt bike trail'. I'm not sure, but I think 'dirt bike on trails' is a different kw phrase as well.

I only saw the exact kw phrase 'dirt bike trails' twice in the article - once in the title and once in the first paragraph. Those are prime spots, but maybe adding a couple of more times, getting some back links where that is the anchor text pointing to this specific page, doing a guest blog or an article (or both!) on 'dirt bike trails' with resource box pointing to this page?

'trail' or 'bike trail' or 'dirt bike' is not as directed / long tailed as 'dirt bike trail'. Much more general terms. Those terms are used quite a lot in the article.

Ok, so you're saying that I should have the exact phrase "dirt bike trails" in the post a few more times? I didn't know it had to be the exact phrase to count.

[angienewton]

Yes, Tom that is what I was trying to explain above that the phrase you find though the keyword research tool has to be used as is no deviation from it at all. Sorry I didn't explain better.

You'll use that in your title, in your content and to link back to that specific blog post through articles (your bio, etc.).

[Clay Franklin]

in general it is a good idea to have the keyword in the first paragraph, the title, and if possible include links from one post to another in every article, it gives great internal linking juice. Lynn does it on all the posts at clicknewz. If you have a picture be sure to name it with your keyword dirt-bike-grear.jpg or what ever is in the post.
Find a few sites that have keyword luv and include the keyword in the name@keyword part of the comment.

[tomstark]

Thanks for the help everyone, so far. I think I'm going to change the article so that it's more related to the aspects of Dirt Bike Trails and what gear riders can use to protect them and their bikes. I will make sure to have the keyword phrase "Dirt Bike Trails" as the title, in the first paragraph, a couple times in the body, at the end, name of the pics, and use it for keywords. Also, for internal linking, do I just put a link to my "Dirt Bike Trails" on all of my other articles, or what?

[Clay Franklin]

check out clicknewz to see how Lynn does it.
I also do it on my main blog.
during the article you mention "dirt bike trails" and hyperlink it to your article on dirt bike trails.
Then you may say dirt bike accessories and link dirt bike accessories to your dirt bike accessories post. So eventually all your articles get lots of internal linking with keywords.
When I name pictures I have been adding a huyphen between the keywords like dirt-bike-trails.jpg then to add a tricky thing hyperlink the picture to the dirt bike trails blog post with target="_blank" so it opens in a new window. You can also do it in wp image gallery advanced area. drop down target opens in new window.

[jkgourmet]

Thanks for the help everyone, so far. I think I'm going to change the article so that it's more related to the aspects of Dirt Bike Trails and what gear riders can use to protect them and their bikes. I will make sure to have the keyword phrase "Dirt Bike Trails" as the title, in the first paragraph, a couple times in the body, at the end, name of the pics, and use it for keywords. Also, for internal linking, do I just put a link to my "Dirt Bike Trails" on all of my other articles, or what?

how about linking this article, that is also going to talk about gear that riders use to protect themselves to the post about the fox jerseys. Maybe:

I know that the Fox Jersey's (http://motocrosshideout.com/fox-jersey-pants-review/) I reviewed a few days ago look and feel great, but sometimes a ride on tough dirt bike trails require more protective gear such as. . .

and I even got that little ltkw phrase in there again! :)

That would give you the internal link to your other post using anchor text that (hopefully) is a keyword for you - though not necessarily one for your overall site, but maybe on that page, Fox Jersey's was a keyword.

Then you can do some backlinking, hopefully in places where you can use the anchor text of 'dirt bike trails' again in a blog post comment or forum post.

Does that help?

[tomstark]

check out clicknewz to see how Lynn does it.
I also do it on my main blog.
during the article you mention "dirt bike trails" and hyperlink it to your article on dirt bike trails.
Then you may say dirt bike accessories and link dirt bike accessories to your dirt bike accessories post. So eventually all your articles get lots of internal linking with keywords.
When I name pictures I have been adding a huyphen between the keywords like dirt-bike-trails.jpg then to add a tricky thing hyperlink the picture to the dirt bike trails blog post with target="_blank" so it opens in a new window. You can also do it in wp image gallery advanced area. drop down target opens in new window.

Ok, I'll look at her site. Yeah, I can work on interlinking my posts so they make a big web. Thanks for the tips.:)


how about linking this article, that is also going to talk about gear that riders use to protect themselves to the post about the fox jerseys. Maybe:

I know that the Fox Jersey's (http://motocrosshideout.com/fox-jersey-pants-review/) I reviewed a few days ago look and feel great, but sometimes a ride on tough dirt bike trails require more protective gear such as. . .

and I even got that little ltkw phrase in there again! :)

That would give you the internal link to your other post using anchor text that (hopefully) is a keyword for you - though not necessarily one for your overall site, but maybe on that page, Fox Jersey's was a keyword.

Then you can do some backlinking, hopefully in places where you can use the anchor text of 'dirt bike trails' again in a blog post comment or forum post.

Does that help?

Yes, that helps. That makes perfect sense, so I think I'm going to do that. Thanks!

[tomstark]

Ok, I'm back again. My Dirt Bike Trails (http://motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-trails) article now has about 120 incoming page links, almost all of which are PR 4 or higher. I am still wondering why it's not in the top 10 for google, because it has more back links than half of the top 10. Also, the number of incoming page links for the top 10 are nowhere near in order. I know the quality of the links matter, but it seems like it doesn't just depend on the links and keywords for the google rankings. If any of the doesn't make sense just let me know. Thanks

[cim85]

Hi there Tom,

Have a look at this Self-SEO site which you can join for free. You will increase hits/traffic to your site and the flow on effect will mean a higher ranking in the search engines - especially if you simultaneously increase your backlinks per the advice already provided.

http://webiee.biz/tag/cim85

Any questions, pls let me know and only too glad to help.

Rgds Mark

[TMichaelRogers]

Are your inbound links using Dirt Bike Trails as the link text. This will optimize your links a bit further and give you that last bit of juice.

I did a quick look via Yahoo Site Explorer at your links and your EZ Article is just linked using the URL itself.

Click here to view an article on dirt bike trails and protection.
http://motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-trails/

You should change that to "Dirt Bike Trails".

Other things to check:
-Are your backlinks do follow?
-Have you done some competitive analysis of the other pages that are currently ranking? I love Market Samurai for this. Maybe they have twice as many backlinks.
-Finally what is the PR of that URL? Maybe it is conderably lower than the competing top 10

[franknvegas]

You might want to check timetobeseen.com. It's a "bot" that grabs relevant fresh content on an unbelievable scale. In 4 days fleaandtickproducts.com's Alexa ranking went from 12.3 mln. to 72,000 with no marketing or advertising. Thought it was mostly for brick and mortar businesses but "content is king" seems to be true. Their prices are not the typical SEO companies ripoff either.

[tomstark]

Are your inbound links using Dirt Bike Trails as the link text. This will optimize your links a bit further and give you that last bit of juice.

I did a quick look via Yahoo Site Explorer at your links and your EZ Article is just linked using the URL itself.

Click here to view an article on dirt bike trails and protection.
http://motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-trails/

You should change that to "Dirt Bike Trails".

Other things to check:
-Are your backlinks do follow?
-Have you done some competitive analysis of the other pages that are currently ranking? I love Market Samurai for this. Maybe they have twice as many backlinks.
-Finally what is the PR of that URL? Maybe it is conderably lower than the competing top 10

Yeah, the links say "Dirt Bike Trails". What should I change to that on Ezine Articles? They should be, how do you check to make sure they are do follow? The page rank of my article's URL? I don't even think it's ranked? How can I get it ranked?


Hi there Tom,

Have a look at this Self-SEO site which you can join for free. You will increase hits/traffic to your site and the flow on effect will mean a higher ranking in the search engines - especially if you simultaneously increase your backlinks per the advice already provided.

http://webiee.biz/tag/cim85

Any questions, pls let me know and only too glad to help.

Rgds Mark

Thanks Mark, I'll check that out!


You might want to check timetobeseen.com. It's a "bot" that grabs relevant fresh content on an unbelievable scale. In 4 days fleaandtickproducts.com's Alexa ranking went from 12.3 mln. to 72,000 with no marketing or advertising. Thought it was mostly for brick and mortar businesses but "content is king" seems to be true. Their prices are not the typical SEO companies ripoff either.

Hmm, that sounds pretty good.

[tomstark]

Anyone have an idea why it's not ranking well?

[Clay Franklin]

One idea is to change your title tags from tips advice to dirt bike tips and dirt bike advice. it's more descriptive. Just an idea. then add the plug in sexy bookmarks so we can digg and stumble it for you to help it get ranked.
You could set up a profile at tagged and add your URL and also at myyerabook and mashable. If you leave a comment at my blog it will give you a link back with the comment luv plug in. also if you add the comment luv plug in once people find you you will get a lot of comments. I am getting too many non relative comments currently so not sure if I should keep it, yet it does drive traffic there and gets comments. Be sure to tweet your full url with a keyword and that helps for sure and set up a facebook fan page for dirt bikes and that will help too.

[angienewton]

Great tips Clay! The only one I wouldn't recommend is Tom commenting on your blog for back linking purposes because it's not a relevant blog for his niche so it doesn't hold as much weight if any.

Tom, just keep writing content on your blog, articles, do guest posting on other relevant sites, etc. Over and over again!

[tomstark]

One idea is to change your title tags from tips advice to dirt bike tips and dirt bike advice. it's more descriptive. Just an idea. then add the plug in sexy bookmarks so we can digg and stumble it for you to help it get ranked.
You could set up a profile at tagged and add your URL and also at myyerabook and mashable. If you leave a comment at my blog it will give you a link back with the comment luv plug in. also if you add the comment luv plug in once people find you you will get a lot of comments. I am getting too many non relative comments currently so not sure if I should keep it, yet it does drive traffic there and gets comments. Be sure to tweet your full url with a keyword and that helps for sure and set up a facebook fan page for dirt bikes and that will help too.

Ok, I changed those titles. I do have a Share button at the end of every post. Yeah, I have a facebook and twitter page for it. Thanks for the help!


Great tips Clay! The only one I wouldn't recommend is Tom commenting on your blog for back linking purposes because it's not a relevant blog for his niche so it doesn't hold as much weight if any.

Tom, just keep writing content on your blog, articles, do guest posting on other relevant sites, etc. Over and over again!

Yep, that's what I plan on doing. Thanks