60 Second Mistake Got Me Banned From Warrior

[kentheriot]

This is a bit upsetting:confused:. After posting my first WSO over at the Warrior Forum (I've been a member for all of 2 days), I asked around for tips on how to manage a WSO better, since I was so new. Someone suggested mentioning it in the main forum, which I did. Immediately this person wrote back and said "but don't promote the WSO directly or you might get banned." So I immediately removed all the stuff about the WSO from the post (couldn't figure out how to just delete it).

Heck it wasn't even up for more than about 60 seconds. Next thing I know, I'm banned for a week!

I read the rules (there are lots) on Warrior, but just must have missed that one. and as soon as I realized I had broken a rule, I tried to fix it. But without any warning..."You're banned for a week!"

Anyway...does anyone here know what happens to my WSO that I paid for this morning? Does that come down too?

Also, is there any way to contact the admin there to explain myself? I understand the need for the rules to prevent people who are trying to take advantage, but this was a legitimate mistake. I don't break rules, as a rule:rolleyes:.

That sure put a damper on my enthusiasm for having found what I THOUGHT to be such a cool site that I paid for War Room Membership AND a WSO.

I'd welcome any advice or maybe even words of encouragement;).

Thanks!

Ken (pen name is Jake)

[Engage]

I'd welcome any advice or maybe even words of encouragement;).

Well, ok then.

Advice, extend your week long ban to a decade.

It's called the "Warrior" forum, that should be a clue to what you can expect, and did find there.

And now the encouragement, if you take the advice, you'll have more time to work on your site.

Which is what I should be doing too... . :)

[kentheriot]

Thanks. That does help, actually.

Ken

[lisamariemary]

I disagree. The Warrior Forum really is a great place. They just get a BOATLOAD of traffic and a SHITTAKE load of creeps, so they are pretty cut and dry with the rules. There is pretty much no bending them, whatsoever - even though it was a totally and completely honest mistake - and you fixed your blunder right away.

There are some amazing people there and I have learned a LOT OF STUFF there and there are people there with some REALLY BIG HEARTS.

But - there is soooooo much traffic there and so many ne-er do wells (sp?) that they just take a very hard stance to the rules.

They will, in fact, welcome you back with open arms the minute your week is up.

I understand what Engage is saying about getting more work done, but, that is true, and can be true, of any forum. If you hang around in forums all day - you will meet lots of cool people - but you might not get much work done.

If you would like me to, I will look around and ask and stuff and see what will be up with your WSO.

[retta719]

I have mixed feelings about the Warrior Forum. I think there is a ton of great information there, and I also think there is a lot of junk there (in the WSO section). I try to pop in over there and see what's going on every now and then, but I also try not to hang out too long, because it's easy to lose track of time and spend hours upon hours trying to read all the new stuff that people are posting there.

I do think if you have an information product that fits into the "make money" realm of things or content creation type service that running a WSO is a great way to test the water and get some honest feedback.

[cindybidar]

I agree with Lisa. Warrior Forum has some truly amazing, helpful people. I was a wee bit intimidated when I first poked my head in the door over there, but it turns out it's a pretty good bunch of people, all things considered.

They do, of course, attract more than their fair share of drive-by link droppers, which is why they're sticklers for the rules.

I'm not sure what you can do now, except wait out your week. In the future - in addition to reading the rules, of course - I'd lurk in any new forums for at least a couple of weeks before jumping in with both feet. Sometimes you learn more by what people are saying than by reading the rules.

[Greg]

I agree with all of the above.

First, good for you for taking the initiative to post your first WSO.

I've been a member since 2008 but never really did much with it until I needed content written. WF is a great resource for that.

Because it is an open forum, it is "self vetting". Good resources seem to stay around, while others fall by the wayside.

You are certainly not the first to break a rule there, and you won't be the last. Shrug it off, start over and prosper. :)

Greg

[lisamariemary]

I dug around for a while and asked one of the long term members (who has himself been banned - I think more than once!) but, he didn't know. He said to ask the admins, but, I would definitely use caution in doing that.

[kentheriot]

Thanks everyone! I do understand that with so much traffic, there's no practical way they could do a case-by-case thing. It's just that the timing is so bad, being the first day of my first WSO. I won't be able to answer questions, correct mistakes, etc. on my thread.

Oh well. Water under the bridge. I'll keep on moving forward.

Thanks again!

Ken

[TomM]

What was your WSO about. Let me know and I will go in and check it for you to see what its doing. My opinion on the WF is that it is a huge, steaming pile of poop the size of Texas littered with diamonds. If you know what your looking for it can be excellent. However, I spent alot of wasted time there when I was investigating the IM world. This forum is a much better place for advice.

[Engage]

My opinion on the WF is that it is a huge, steaming pile of poop the size of Texas littered with diamonds.

Tom, I hereby outsource all my comments on this topic to you. :)

Your way of putting it is both fair, accurate, and wonderfully colorful entertainment. Great writing!

[masonworld]

My issue with WF is that there are so many "fake it until you make it" people on there giving bad advice, that it is hard to tell the good advice from the bad. When you add that to the number of total JERKS and scam artists there, I have a hard time justifying investing my time in their product.

[Engage]

! I have been banned from 2 forums; both for LIFE...

Only two? Dang, you aren't trying hard enough! :)

Seriously, you make a good point Matthew. I've been banned from forums too, (more than two, I win!) and we can perhaps be helpful by reporting this honestly to Ken.

Being banned isn't automatically a bad thing.

Ok, it can be, if we're pointlessly rude or blatantly and repeatedly ignore reasonable rules etc. Surely many bannings fit this description.

However, if we're serious about the topic, and serious about writing, getting banned from a community can be sort of an art form.

If one should be eccentric enough to wish to practice this goofy art form, here's a premise to build upon.


If the things we want to hear, would get us where we want to go, we'd already be there.

Point being, the boundaries of the group consensus can be very productive territory to explore. Trying to contribute something at least somewhat different than what's already been said a thousand times, is a writer's job.

But, here's the problem.

In any community, there will always be lots of folks that have a significant ego investment, and maybe business investment too, in the group consensus. This is especially true for thought leaders within the group.

In addition, the group consensus is the conceptual framework that defines the group, and the glue that holds it together.

So, if we are effective in exploring the boundaries of a group consensus, we can be seen as a threat both to individuals within the group, and the group itself.

Whatever our niche, or publishing platform, the equation for writers seems to be about the same.

If we stay squarely within the group consensus, we'll be safe, but invisible.

If we write beyond the group consensus, our profile might pop up above the waves of an endless ocean of other writers....

.... but we should expect incoming tomatoes as the price of doing business.

[kentheriot]

What was your WSO about. Let me know and I will go in and check it for you to see what its doing. My opinion on the WF is that it is a huge, steaming pile of poop the size of Texas littered with diamonds. If you know what your looking for it can be excellent. However, I spent alot of wasted time there when I was investigating the IM world. This forum is a much better place for advice.

Thanks Tom!

It's probably on the 3rd page by now:p. The WSO is about better audio recording. I think the the subject line is something like "Massively Improve Audio Quality from a Home Studio Anyone Can Afford" or something like that.

Thanks again!

Ken

ps my WF username is KenTheriot, which is really what I should change it to here as well.

[Mike Murphy]

Having recently been banned for a week myself, I can tell you that you are basically at the mercy of whatever mood the specific mod happens to be in at the time they see your thread.

I mean, it's not like we're in there waging war or trying to hurt each other.

I simply asked people what they'd ask high level marketers if they got a chance to meet them. Banned.

If you so much as breathe the acronym WSO outside of your actual WSO post, you run a very good chance of being banned.

I would calmly and politely approach a mod or submit a ticket and see if you can get your WSO re-run...but don't hold your breath.

Sorry it happened to you all the same.

Mike

[kentheriot]

Thanks Mike. I will be a wiser Warrior next week:).

Ken

[lisamariemary]

Ken - there's no BUY button in your WSO - there is, but it goes to that audio that is linked after the first main paragraph. And a guy asked yesterday for the buy button. Did you maybe get it wrong in there or did they take it out? hmm...

[kentheriot]

Ken - there's no BUY button in your WSO - there is, but it goes to that audio that is linked after the first main paragraph. And a guy asked yesterday for the buy button. Did you maybe get it wrong in there or did they take it out? hmm...

Lisa (is that right?),

Thanks for letting me know. It DID work at first, but I was having to do so much to tweak things that it may have gotten messed up when someone said to change the podcast audio link.

GRRRR. And there's nothing I can do about it. That was a waste of $20 I guess.

I appreciate your letting me know. I'm guessing my hands are tied since I am banished. Sheesh.

Ken

[kentheriot]

BTW Lisa....it didn't occur to me that maybe you were asking for the url;). I'd post it here but I don't want to get banned from here too:p.

Cheers!

Ken

[lisamariemary]

SSWT has a special offers forum that is totally free - go post it there right now!!! ;)

And if you change your price point just a bit (up) you can blog about it and tweet about it and ask some friends to tweet about it. And you should totally think about joining the Elite group here when it reopens (next week, I think?)

This is an awesome place to learn and get tons of support! :)

[kentheriot]

SSWT has a special offers forum that is totally free - go post it there right now!!! ;)

And if you change your price point just a bit (up) you can blog about it and tweet about it and ask some friends to tweet about it. And you should totally think about joining the Elite group here when it reopens (next week, I think?)

This is an awesome place to learn and get tons of support! :)

Thanks Lisa. I didn't know that! But I can't post it there because you have to be an Elite Member. All things are closed to me this week I guess:p.

Thanks for the tip though. I'm all over it next week.

Cheers,

Ken

[Engage]

All things are closed to me this week I guess:p.

Ken, I'm sorry, but we have banned you from this forum for the next 45 seconds, due to your consistently cheerful and reasonable behavior, which makes forum food fights almost impossible.

In the future, please read all imaginary invisible forum policies before we think of them, and be sure to post only spam in the forum.

I hope you will learn something from this, and try to be more hysterical upon your return.

[kentheriot]

OMG, this is SOOOO the forum for me! An actual sense of humor? And a wry, cheeky one at that? Who do all you great people think you are? Some of us out here are trying sow hate and discontent on all forums (fora?) so we can feel more alive and powerful...because we have no actual power in real life, because we are pathetic losers. And its upbeat, forthright and helpful people on lists like this that make our lives so difficult.

;)

Seriously, thanks for that post! It made my morning:)

Cheers!

Ken

[Engage]

Who do all you great people think you are? Some of us out here are trying sow hate and discontent on all forums (fora?) so we can feel more alive and powerful...because we have no actual power in real life, because we are pathetic losers. And its upbeat, forthright and helpful people on lists like this that make our lives so difficult.


Ha, ha!! LOL!

There you go.

Much better!!

See?

Proof that banning works! :)

[kentheriot]

Give me the details of your WSO. I will verify it on your behalf. You can get valuable suggestions and advice at this forum.

Thanks wingmaiker. This was quite awhile ago. But if you're interested, the WSO there click here (http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/219212-massive-improvement-your-audio-recordings-without-new-gear-see-how-new-7-00-report.html) is now a special offer here at SSWT.

I agree that this forum is filled with awesome and very helpful people!

Cheers,

Ken