Keyword Ideas for Domain Name

[sona88]

Hi Elite Members

I have found some amazing keywords for example i have got some great KWs on mini dresses, pencil dresses/skirtssummer dresses /skirts etc

Now rather than creating different sites for each category like mini skirts, pencil skirts , summer clothing /skirts/dresses i want to set up one site having these different categories and want some ideas/help / suggestions for a domain name for setting up such a site

Sona

[angienewton]

Sona, would you like this to be posted in the elite group or on the main forum? Right now it's on the main forum but I can move it into the elite section if you want to keep this private. Let me know before we start chatting about domain names.

[sona88]

Dont mind if its in the Elight group


Sona

[sona88]

Dont think i have access to that group


Sona

[angienewton]

I show you as an elite member. Can you see the extra elite forums here (http://www.clicknewz.com/members/forumdisplay.php?10-Private-Brainstorming-Forum)? If you can see those, you have access to the group.

But if you don't mind it being here on the main forum we can proceed. I would not worry too much about a keyword domain as it doesn't carry a ton of weight anymore. It's the content/pages/posts on the inside that will carry the weight.

So maybe something like Sonas Dress Shop? Dress shop is a keyword phrase but it's very competitive however it would work as a main domain. Then you can optimize on the micro level in side of your blog through posts, categories, pages, etc.

Will you be making and selling dresses? What is the goal with this site? Could be very fun!

[sona88]

Well i aim to develop it as a site on all soughts dresses and skirts and all types of mini skirts /dress , wedding dresses, summer dresses from Amazon cause i have really found some excellent KWs on different types of dresses. In short lets say trying to develop an authority site since i have atleast 40/50 KWs on different types of dresses and skirts and hence i decided to develop it as one site rather than developing individual sites on different dresses/types of dresses

Sona

[angienewton]

One site is a great idea! And you could even promote accessories for the dress (shoes, purses, jewelry). Looking forward to seeing the site take shape. Will you blog or will it be a static site?

[sona88]

Would not like it to be a static site and want to keep building it up with the latest trends if possible

Yet looking for ideas on the domain name since thats too competitive a phrase to get into

Sona

[angienewton]

OK so you want a blog, that's good to have fresh content and have a community around your site.

Again, you don't need a keyword rich domain name to be successful so I would still recommend something with dress shop in it if it's going to be all about dresses. Otherwise give us some more ideas on what you'll include and we can brainstorm more ideas.

[sona88]

Well here i go

Dont know how i can represent it in a diagram out here but let me try

Home---------CP-----------SCP----------LTKWs


Home will be my home page where i will briefly describe what my site is going to be about based on my domain KW and will use the same here as well as the KWs which will on CP-that is the is the category page KWs which will be more easier to rank for as compared to my Home page

SCP will be the sub category pages which will be based on KWs on Category Pages and will be even more easier to rank for Example of CP would be Mini Skirts and example of SCP would be black mini skirts These are only examples which are coming off as i type the same.

The SCP--sub category pages - would be followed by the LTKWs and with lesser volume and much easier competition to rank for KWs. The internal linking structure would flow upwards from LTKWs to SCP to CP to Home Page and also the backlinks would flow in the same direction so i will initially start ranking for my LTKWs and ultimately the link juice will flow and rank my site better in the long run

Would invite suggestion if my idea for the same is feasible

Though i did find a domain name it was very good for the global market but did not have a good search volume for the US market so i am hesitant in selecting the same

If the search volume were more or less the same i would have no doubt have selected the same but there was a vast difference in the search volume between the two and hence discarded the same

Further example

Wedding dresses

Wedding Gowns

White Wedding Gowns

etc

Sona

[sona88]

Eagerly awaiting response


Sona

[angienewton]

I think your site is laid out nicely but I think you might be focusing too much on keyword numbers. It's going to be on the inside of your website, posts, pages, categories, etc. where you'll use keyword phrases the most. I think a basic dress shop domain would be fine and then you can branch out on the site into different types of dresses. I think you are ready to pick a domain and get started. Also I would look into more than just the Amazon affiliate program to promote if you haven't already started that process.

[sona88]

Hi Angienewton

Yes i am focusing a bit on KW numbers cause have been online for 2 years without much success and realised that KW and KW numbers do play a role if success is to be achieved without too much of backlinking efforts

Hence yet looking /researching KWs for a domain cause dont want to put up much efforts in backlinking


Sona

Yes have read here only that affiliates are moving away from Amazon and want suggestions for affiliates other than Amazon

[gatorx]

Simple. Use your main keyword. I think "skirt" is ideal. Use it with something like topskirts, prettyskirts etc. If you intended to use the product name as keyword then it is no use. How much long do you thing your product will stay in demand. It will be replaced by other brand new products.

[angienewton]

Sona,
I can honestly say that you don't really need to focus on numbers. Once I stopped and just went for all the longtail keywords in my niche is when things started to happen. These days you have to put a lot of effort into websites because Google is really cracking down.

As for affiliate programs, you'll have to Google your niche/product and the word affiliate program. Or check out affiliate networks such as shareasale.com, linkshare.com, cj.com and pepperjamnetwork.com.

[Lynn Terry]

Hi Sona,

All great advice in this thread!


Yes i am focusing a bit on KW numbers cause have been online for 2 years without much success and realised that KW and KW numbers do play a role if success is to be achieved without too much of backlinking efforts

Hence yet looking /researching KWs for a domain cause dont want to put up much efforts in backlinking

This simply isn't the case. Your domain name will nothing to do with needing (or not needing) to get backlinks. You'll need backlinks to get traffic & rankings - no matter what your domain name.

If you're referring to "exact match domain name" marketing... that no longer works with the search engines like it used to. They stopped giving weight to that as a ranking criteria. Consider "clicknewz.com" (my domain). I have been blogging under this domain for years - before, during, and after the exact match domain era - and I have ALWAYS enjoyed great search engine rankings for the pages & posts on that domain.

The domain holds very little weight in the overall ranking criteria.

Your best move is to consider branding more seriously than keywords.

I liked SonasDressShop.com

Other ideas (and these are currently available):

SkirtswithStyle.com

TopSkirtTrends.com

StylishSkirt.com

[sona88]

Hi Lynn

I have experienced that it becomes very difficult to rank for hyphernated domain names Would not like to get into skirts specifically cause may branch out into wedding gowns or something in that arena also . Should have scope for future expansion
Had thought of "glamorous dresses " but again all dresses , for example summer dresses may not be glamorous

Further, Dress Shop , it has many competing pages and may require more backlinking efforts ? May be wrong . But would like the debate to go a bit further .

Sona

[sona88]

Further Lynn i am also looking at the average number of Links on the top 10 pages of the KW Phrase for which the suggesions are coming in

Can it be " Pretty Dresses" or "Best Dresses " Only inviting suggestion

Sona

[Lynn Terry]

Again, the domain name carries very little weight in overall ranking criteria, so don't worry about keywords for the domain as much as branding.

I would not mix wedding dresses/gowns with skirts and dresses. They are two different markets completely. If you want to sell wedding dresses and accessories, you'll want a website targeting brides only.

I didn't recommend a hyphenated domain. And wouldn't.

[sona88]

Hi Lynn

So you would yet suggest sonasdressshop over pretty dresses is it?


Sona

[sona88]

Or is it possible to have sonasprettydresses?

Now i am throwing my thoughts around for real good suggestions. Hope you dont mind

Sona

[angienewton]

I'm not sure that pretty dresses has a good ring to it. I would still stick with dress shop but I'm not saying it wouldn't work. Just don't worry about it being a KW phrase for the domain.

Go ahead and get started!

I noticed also that you are no longer an elite member. As an elite member (http://www.clicknewz.com/members/payments.php) you get a lot more specific help on your business than here in the main forum so I recommend that you sign up again if you still want more one on one help.

[sona88]

Awaiting your response to a message posted elsewhere on elite membership


Sona

[angienewton]

I responded in the other thread, thanks.

[sona88]

Ok So should it be DressShop or SonasDressShop?

Secondly could i get help in getting an affiliate other than Amazon


Sona

[angienewton]

Great I see you signed back up to the elite group. You'll want to start a new thread probably in the Beginners Brainstorming forum (http://www.clicknewz.com/members/forumdisplay.php?22-Getting-Started-Beginners-Brainstorming-Forum) in the elite section. That way what we share will be private.

I think you should go for Sonas Dress Shop (or whatever name you want to go by and then dress shop).

Then for finding affiliate programs, you'll just go to places like linkshare.com, pepperjamnetwork.com, cj.com, all affiliate networks and do a search for clothing/fashion, etc. Then you'll go through their list and find the companies that fit best and request approval.

The big thing is they will want you to have some traffic, content, etc. before they will approve so I would get your domain, hosting account, upload Wordpress and get it all started. Do an about page, intro post and for now if you are an Amazon affiliate, you can use that.

Do your keyword research for categories, blog posts, pages, etc.

Once you have your domain and hosting and have uploaded a Wordpress theme, start a new thread in the elite forum so we can then brainstorm where to go next.

[Lynn Terry]

I still like:

SkirtswithStyle.com

TopSkirtTrends.com

StylishSkirt.com

If you brand it without your name, it gives you a good exit strategy later. You will be able to sell the site, bring on a team of writers, etc. Something short and catchy that appeals to your target market, such as the examples above.

I agree with Angie on building out the site first, and then finding merchants to work with. You shouldn't have a problem finding them for this site - and we can help you locate some good potential opportunities.

[sona88]

Thats great Lynn

Fell for those names Great ones

Now for the themes?

Got a witer in hand already

Sona

[sona88]

Well Elite Members

I am goiing to ask all minutes questions which may all all silly to yourll but nevertheless i will ask so i learn

After choosing the domain what should be my first page/post all about? Should it have a Home or about page?

Sona

[sona88]

Well got the domain TopSkirtTrends.com and waiting for propogation to complete and waiting for some answers to some questions in the meanwhile

Sona

[angienewton]

After choosing the domain, post in the elite section that I mentioned (http://www.clicknewz.com/members/showthread.php?8238-Keyword-Ideas-for-Domain-Name&p=88231#post88231) above so we can brainstorm ideas. It will be a different thread from this one. Start a new post there.

[Lynn Terry]

I found your thread in the Private Brainstorming Group, so we'll pick it up there. :)

[EcoConsciousMom]

I don't see why your idea wouldn't work. Essentially you are using your categories as the "keyword domains" and building up the power of the overall domain (the one you actually bought). I know many affiliate marketers do this as often as the one domain per keyword.

I'm a little unsure how you would build the internal linking structure for LTKWs --> SCP --> CP --> Home
Can you explain your idea a little more?

I've been having fun with ...obsessed domain names lately. You could do something like TrendObsessed.com (taken) or SummerObsessed.com (available as of writing this). You mentioned mostly summer style items and this could relate to them all with the ability to grow with future trends. It's also slightly keyword rich with "summer" but I don't know if you are trying to rank for anything with that in the title.

I just want to be sure, you are trying to do something like this right:
DOMAIN: dogs.com
CATEGORY PAGES: 1) dog training, 2) dog walking, 3) dog grooming
SUB CATEGORY PAGES: 1) dog training tips, dog training tools, 2) dog walking tips, dog walking jobs, 3) dog grooming services, dog grooming tools
LTKW: 1) dog training tips for beginners, dog training tools under $10, 2) dog walking tips for parents, dog walking jobs for high school students, 3) dog grooming services in Los Angeles, dog grooming tools of the trade

[sona88]

Hi EcoConsciousMom

Well i have several KWs in different Categories . The two-three word KWs will form my categories and hence the page and the LTKWs will form the posts linking back to the the pages and giving/passing the link juice upwards

Sona

[EcoConsciousMom]

Hi EcoConsciousMom

Well i have several KWs in different Categories . The two-three word KWs will form my categories and hence the page and the LTKWs will form the posts linking back to the the pages and giving/passing the link juice upwards

Sona

Ok. So the home page will list all the categories (2-3 work KWs), then each category page will list the articles (LTKWs). I get that, think that's doable. You are essentially creating a squeeze page (like Problogger calls it where it's a page with your greatest posts in a sense).

How would you accomplish this backwards?